• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Are you seriously suggesting we just leave the cartels alone? They’re some of the most evil people on the planet.

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      3 days ago

      Yes, leave them to the people who actually have to live with the consequences of their existence; they’re more likely to do actually effective things rather than drop a bomb and make everything worse. If you want to do something about some of the most evil people on the planet, go bomb Congress or Wall Street (the White House will do in a pinch).

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          2 days ago

          Some people just want to be outraged, and damn the facts.

          There was a story here about the failure of the Moa point sewage plant failure in Wellington, which I’m pretty familiar with, as I live here. Multiple people commented about corporate greed destroying the environment etc, despite the fact this was a council owned asset.

          They also didn’t like me pointing this out, either.

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              2 days ago

              Yes, the same military ‘ally’ who was suggesting a couple months ago to bomb mexico without Mexico’s permission.

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        3 days ago

        First, this was a shootout, not a bombing. Second, it was the Mexican military, who I’m pretty sure feel the effects of their actions, living in the country and all.

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          3 days ago

          Yes, I’m saying that Americans should let Mexicans (including the Mexican military) deal with their cartel problem and stay out of it.

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              2 days ago

              That the US shouldn’t pressure Mexico to do this or that to the cartels (which is what happened here), but also more generally that the unilateral action threatened by Trump and pursued by past administrations throughout the drug war shouldn’t have happened and shouldn’t happen.

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                2 days ago

                How do you know that’s what happened here? Mexico has plenty of incentive to take on the cartels without the US getting involved.

                This is actually kinda racist, to be honest. You’re assuming Mexico has no agency of their own, and everything they do is a result of pressure from the US.

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                  How do you know that’s what happened here?

                  I don’t know for sure about this specific case, but as the article states,

                  President Claudia Sheinbaum has been under mounting pressure from Washington to intensify her offensive against drug cartels blamed for producing and smuggling drugs, particularly the synthetic opioid fentanyl, across the border to the U.S.

                  That a high-profile military operation likely to lead to random violence and instability is happening two months after the Venezuela debacle and Trump threatening to bomb Mexico could be a coincidence, but it definitely doesn’t have to be, and either way the fact of US pressure doesn’t change.