• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    15 天前

    I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.

    • Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
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      15 天前

      As a global south citizen, we never received any “good things” from the USA. Only war and destruction, a century before Trump.

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      15 天前

      This isn’t the time. People are angry at us and rightfully so. We don’t need to get defensive, we need to get to the work of fixing this country. We need to make sure this never happens again.

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      15 天前

      The USA has also done a great deal of good things

      Name five good things America did for the Global South.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      14 天前

      “Hey America is invading a country illegally.”

      “Yes, but America is good still, we do good.”

      “Name something we did that’s good in the last 26 years?”

      “You really can’t think of anything? Ugh, maga expecting me to list things America does well.”

      Even when Trump is actively invading a country illegally, Americans still find ways to defend it.

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        14 天前

        Read what was said, think about what that means, then write a reply to what was said. Do not mix some things together in your head and then reply to that stuff.

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          14 天前

          Question, even if what you’re saying was true, what does it serve in the context of discussing the US military intervention in a sovereign country? Besides legitimating the US and its actions, that is.

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            14 天前

            Nothing, I specifically replied to the comment die to the absurd nature of the “always only bad”. Let me quote, it is a bit up at this point:

            USA has started invading venezuela. Thats all this country has done since its inception. Invade, kill, lie.

            The day this country goes, will be a great day for humanity.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 天前

        His only argument is that if you point out America’s flaws your just as bad as maga who uses their flaws to their advantage as making it great again.

        Surely he’s not a status quo defender, surely.

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        14 天前

        Yes, but the foaming-from-the-mouth “it was always exclusively bad” is still rubbish. Just like MAGA rubbish about how all immigrants are rapists.

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      15 天前

      Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.

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        15 天前

        What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.

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          15 天前

          I thought you meant “technological advances”. But yeah, for the sake of argument: Einstein’s genius would’ve been found elsewhere, again and again, perhaps in some slum in India for instance, and the Nazis were mostly beaten by the commies, lol, America just joined at the end because letting them take over Europe would’ve been bad for the power balance for them…

          For one who considers life to be sacred (even if you’re not white!), is there anything that is worth American imperialism? The genocide of the natives? The enslavement of Africans? The constant invasions and destabilisation of nations? Certainly not, right? Other countries live okay without having to murder, rape and pillage, even under American control!

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            15 天前

            So there is nothing that would not happen without the USA (or anything, anyone) then, when even one of the most unique humans is replaceable?