• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.

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      16 days ago

      I thought you meant “technological advances”. But yeah, for the sake of argument: Einstein’s genius would’ve been found elsewhere, again and again, perhaps in some slum in India for instance, and the Nazis were mostly beaten by the commies, lol, America just joined at the end because letting them take over Europe would’ve been bad for the power balance for them…

      For one who considers life to be sacred (even if you’re not white!), is there anything that is worth American imperialism? The genocide of the natives? The enslavement of Africans? The constant invasions and destabilisation of nations? Certainly not, right? Other countries live okay without having to murder, rape and pillage, even under American control!

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        16 days ago

        So there is nothing that would not happen without the USA (or anything, anyone) then, when even one of the most unique humans is replaceable?