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Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 2 days ago

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Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 2 days ago
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  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    I’m all for hating the Giants as a cowboys fan. But I’m curious what role it plays in this meme.

  • python@lemmy.world
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    Russian could have been such a woke language if Russia wasn’t such a right-wing shithole. It’s kind of elegant how you gender verbs when talking about yourself, because your conversation partner can just pick up on it and gender you accordingly.

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    Non-native English speaker here. I was appalled to learn that English conjugated for animacy, and could swear “it” was the gender-neutral pronoun because that’s what was used in Pokemon for example. I’m also not a fan of toggling conjugations mid-sentence, so I prefer to construct sentences with the plural “they”, the expression “that person”, or even the singular “one(self)”, whenever I can

    • beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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      It’s not. In academic writing the gender neutral is they/them.

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        Which is why I was appalled to learn it late in life that “it” was reserved exclusively to non-humans, for some reason that didn’t exist in my native Spanish. The rest of my explanation would be better written on a longer blog-post of mine.

  • VeryFrugal@sh.itjust.works
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    Korean, having to know the person’s age, social status, relationship and all just to call someone.

  • Jumi@lemmy.world
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    I have friends who use it. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectiving them but if that’s what they want it’s what they get.

    • gerryflap@feddit.nl
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      Yeah I’d be quite uncomfortable with calling anyone “it”. I’ll gladly use they/them, I’d be down to learn some neopronouns, but calling someone “it” is something I’d rather avoid. Even if someone likes “it” pronouns, I’d still feel incredibly weird doing so in public. Calling people an “it” is often done here to mock androgynous people. It feels dehumanizing. If I were to do so in public, it would mean they people around me (who don’t know the other person’s preference) would probably assume I’m doing so to mock them.

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        On the other hand, when I was learning English this was the weirdest thing to me. What do you mean you have a gender neutral pronoun and it’s not acceptable to use it to refer to someone we don’t know the gender of?

      • Jumi@lemmy.world
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        I admit I use “they” when they’re not around and luckily it rarely happens that I need to use their pronouns when I’m out with them.

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      I have friends who use “it”. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectifying it but if that’s what it wants it’s what it gets.

      ftfy

      • Jumi@lemmy.world
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        Great job, what would I ever do without you?

    • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
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      To me “it” dehumanises someone doen to an object.

  • pyrflie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It keeps looking at us precious.

  • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    No joke: in my native German dialect, women are grammatically neutral.

    My then gf was completely shocked when visiting my birth region for the first time.
    It still married me, though! :-)

  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    You know what’s weird? I’ve caught myself saying “it” about people a few times passively lately and then correcting myself and wondering where the fuck that came from

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  • Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    I use ‘it’ to describe ME :3

    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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      I have “it” in my Discord description, along with cpt.

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    In Chinese, verbally the world for he, she, and it are all the same pronunciation. It is only differentiated in writing.

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      The written form was neutral until Western influence inspired the creation of a female version, replacing the first radical “person” with “woman”.

      • [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui]@sh.itjust.works
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        I think some Chinese forums use “TA” (as in the 2 English letters) to be gender neutral

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      Don’t forget the word 祂 for divine beings as the 4th

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        Going to randomly call people 祂 to fuck with them.

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      Ta?

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    Ah yes, Dilbert scrabble scene.

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    I could be an it. A good little toy.

    • Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Based

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      Average blahaj user

      • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        :3

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      img

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    Turkish has no gender specific pronouns so this is every Turkish speaker I guess

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      Not even for people? I dont know why that sounds so strange but it does.

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        Neither does finnish

        • Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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          Yeah in common spoken language we call everything “it”, except sometimes pets are “he/she”, because people are signaling they’re valued as persons are

          Edit// we only have two third person pronouns, se (it) and hän (he/she)

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        There is only one third person singular pronoun (“O”) used for people (regardless of gender) and objects alike.

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          Huh once again, hungarian is very similar to turkish. We have “ő” for that. No aninimity or gender distinction. Tho we do have this, that and a third one which i guess translates to yonder? But yeah in some constructions you can specify aninimity with them.

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          Also the word for “they” is “onlar” which is just “o” with the prular suffix “lar” attached, that’s like using “its” to mean “them.”

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    This is why everything is a little shit to me. I’m just getting all of them in one combined s/h/it word.

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      You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

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        ……….No.

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        Gotta reuse fiber to hit the daily recommended.

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        I would guess that yes, that’s (h) it

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