Damn you went all out with the absurdity of that straw man. Nice one!

Politicians are constantly criticizing their opponents without necessarily presenting alternative solutions. A murder done with a political motive is a political murder. A political murder is a political message. “The system sucks so bad that there are people out there who are willing to take arms because of it.” That’s the message, in case you seriously still had not figured it out yourself.

The book was only referenced in order to emphasize that political motive by bringing up the fact that the health insurance sector is rotten and many have grievances against it. The methods the author would prefer are irrelevant to that fact, as the shooter clearly arrived at a different conclusion.

It was a murder. Mentioning the name of the book gives it a political motive. A political murder is a political message. It’s not that complicated, I’m just pointing this out to you since it evidently flew over your head earlier and the other commenter didn’t spell it out for you.

That was a reference to the texts the perpetrator had written in the shell casings he used, which were a reference to a book. He definitely sent a message with the act, and it was very much a political one at that.

The pursuit of capital is a thing elsewhere, yes, but that pursuit isn’t in control of legislation (at least as badly as it is over there in the US). Instead it is (mostly) controlled by legislation. This is the crucial difference between the US and most of the developed world. This is what would need to change before your dream of a legislative solution could be realised.

The image is a satirical (I’m guessing meta-ironic) contemporary imitation of the work of late David Eugene Dees, a conspiracy theorist and graphic designer.

A contemporary imitation of David Dees’ work? I adore this. The world needs more of this.

I mean, Oppenheimer at least seemed to regret what he did. Teller on the other hand was completely remorseless and unhinged.

Damn that goes hard.

IQ is an attempt to represent a persons problem solving abilities with a single number. This is bullshit, because intelligence isn’t that simple. There’s different kinds of intelligence. Some people are better at some kinds of intelligence, while others have their strenghts in other areas.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

A person can be rich in many ways. A coral reef is rich in biodiversity etc.

The rich refers to the group of people who are financially rich to an obscene extent.

So the lack of proof is the proof? Bro you have schizophrenia.

Not sure, but I think the last line is a suitable commonality to be called a template name.

Achchchually no I’m not in the Andromeda galaxy 2.5 million light-years from Earth.

I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

Our two parallel discussions are about the methods of protesting against the use of fossil fuels. Our discussions here exists because of JSO. It got you thinking about what should be done to get rid of the use of fossil fuels, even if this was just for the purposes of making counterarguments.

You do realize that you replied to a comment just now that raised the issue of fossil fuel subsidies, and the effect those have on the price and thus consumption of oil? Just ending those subsidies would already have a dramatic effect.

It’s true that the discussion is currently centered on freedom of speech, most notably because of the most recent developments, but the issue that is being protested is constantly present in the background. I’m betting that after the criminalization of protests stops being news, that issue gets back into the limelight.

Direct action against fossil fuel infrastructure would be less in the public due to a less central location. Sitting on a street works because it’s a nuisance to many, thus generating a lot of interest among the press and that way the message gets amplified. Gaining publicity via industrial sabotage would be difficult unless they did somehting very drastic, which would only turn them from a mere “nuicanse” into actual villains in the press. Especially so if some such drastic measure leads to the unintended death or injury of a worker at a refinery etc. This would also turn the fossil fuel companies from crooks into victims and I’m betting that they’d also try to frame it as sabotage hurting the blue collar workers they employ. All this while affecting the actual price of oil in a miniscule way at most and alienating the majority of their members who don’t accept these acts. Nonviolence is held in high regard.

The process I described unfortunately does take longer than the initial lashing outs of the establisment. A couple of “martyrs” may not be the worst thing either.

YungOnions already provided you with some good articles about why and how nonviolent disruption works. I suggest you read them.

You approach the whole issue as if it were just up to consumers to stop oil by changing their habits. It isn’t. Switching to an EV isn’t a solution when you’re still paying taxes that go into subsidizing fossil fuels. (Switching to an EV for getting around in a city isn’t a solution anyways, use public transit or get a bicycle). Consumers won’t stop consuming oil until the full cost (including all externalities) of it is shown in the price tag. Action is needed at the political level, and that won’t happen unless enough noise is made regarding the issue. That’s what JSO is doing.

Disruptions cause outrage

Outrage sparks discusson

Discussion leads to political pressure

Political pressure leads to action that targets the oil industry

Mostly it’s just people discussing whether flour should be measured by mass or volume. Jokes about using some mcburgers per football field -esque satirical units, some joke about using moles instead. Some comment about a funny misspelling in the meme. Nobody is flying into an incoherent rage.

I think you’re taking the trollface in the meme a bit too literally. It’s annoying and unnecessary, and can cause mistakes that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise. Ahem, the Mars Climate Orbiter is a good example of a particularly costly one.

Nobody is flying into an incoherent rage. It’s merely annoying having to accommodate the outdated quirks of one country. You having to do the opposite is quite reasonable on the other hand, because you’re not accommodating the conventions of one country, but those of the rest of the world.