• minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    She is still a perpetrator, she doesn’t need to be charged or convicted. She violently assaulted someone. That is not in dispute. That she isn’t charged is a mercy given by society because of the circumstances. The victim of her assault could still press charges if they wished.

    Failure of society to address a grievance when it suits you does not justify forming a mob and violently attacking someone. She is not ethically justified violently assaulting someone because her feelings are hurt.

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      16 hours ago

      Do you understand the legal concepts of “Instigation” and “incitement”?

      The person who throws the punch is not always the person legally responsible for the punch being thrown. When his unreasonable actions rise to the level of “instigation” or “incitement”, he becomes responsible for the actions she takes against him.

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          15 hours ago

          You do understand that she’s not being charged with that, right?

          What I am saying is that if I deliberately try to piss you off enough for you to take a swing at me, I become criminally responsible for the violent acts you take against me. That’s “instigation”.

          “Instigation” is why she isn’t being charged with assault and battery. She’s not responsible for the violence on the bus. He is.

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              15 hours ago

              Yeah, you used the word “incite”, but it doesn’t actually mean what you seem to think it means.

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                14 hours ago

                It has more than one meaning, though. If you can’t infer the one I meant, you could just ask for clarification. You seem overly hostile though.

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                  14 hours ago

                  I am reasonably confident I am arguing with an unreasonable, intellectually dishonest person. My hostility arises from that belief.