• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      Because insurance companies operate by taking premiums in and not paying out claims. They’ll cover basically anything as long as statistically they think they won’t have to pay.

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      It is about insurance companies take to protect themself against cybercrime. The insurance companies do not want to cover the use of AI, as it is too risky to them.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Insurance is about covering the risks of the unexpected.

      So a company losing money can be insured but the insurance will only cover the costs of unexpected events (say, the business premises burning) rather than the normal business (which in this example actually loses money).

      My understanding is that Insurance doesn’t want to cover things done via AI because AI makes lots of mistakes and has a much higher probability of making massive mistakes (the kind of mistakes that can kill people or destroy companies) which even untrained humans will not do - AI will advise a suicidal person to kill themselves or somebody wanting to do pizza to put glue on top, whilst even the most untrained person will not: it’s a bad idea to have an untrained person give psychological advice but it’s an even worse idea to have an AI do it.

      In other words AI in the loop increases the probability of exceptionally bad unusual situations happening, so the Insurer doesn’t want to insure companies which use it because that Insurer would have far more and far bigger claims from such a client.This is the same as an insurer refusing to insure companies that use untrained personnel to do really high risk things or which place themselves in high risk situations just to save a buck (for example, storing highly flammable materials in an area with lots of sparks or fire use).

      It’s pretty standard for an insurer to refuse to provide insurance to operations which are taking huge unnecessary risks to save money and AI use definitely is a huge unnecessary risk in lots of situations (for example, lawyers using AI risk being disbarred if constantly in submissions to judges the AI references non-existing case law which it invented, same thing it would happen if they themselves constantly did something like that).

      • Jhex@lemmy.world
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        Insurance is about covering the risks of the unexpected.

        It’s actually about covering the risk of the expected

        If you had a device that could explode and blow up a finger OR a hemisphere and there is no way of knowing what will happen, you cannot get it insured

        Companies insure their products because they KNOW some of their products will be defective and may cause harm… they just cannot avoid the defects 100% of the time

        • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Specifically in management terms its about the “known unknowns” - things that you know might happen but don’t specifically know the when, how, how bad and if it will actually happen or not.

          The main point I was making regarding the previous post is that insurance doesn’t cover the “known knowns”.

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        Statistically, you have enough income to pay your bills. If you haven’t got anything your government (or other organization) will pay your premium on your behalf.

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    Insurance is the business of rational, quantifiable risk prediction. There is no margin for nonsense, or they go bust. Hence, when they get worried, you listen.

    Notice how worried they are about climate-related damages, too.

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      In their core, yes. But in case it’s an agent approaches you with a deal, you walk away for them to chase you up and offers you a bigger deal. There is a huge buffer there.

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        A thing causes effects. Something (or someone) is affected.

        Easyish way to remember the first is just think of “cause and effect”.

        To remember the second, picture someone screaming “AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!” which is like the ‘a’ in affect.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Not quite.

          Things too can be affected, for example “OpenAI’s stock price was affected by news of yet another data breach”.

          I think its easier to distinguish “effect” from “affect” by remember that “effect” is a noun - so a something - whilst “affect” is a verb - so an action on something.

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        Yeah, English sucks. Worst part here is that both spellings can be used as either noun or verb, though the alternate forms are rare.

        Most common forms:

        1. Affect - verb - to alter or change. “The rise of LLMs has affected how people use the Internet”
        2. Effect - noun - result of change: “The effect of LLMs has been to make people dumber”.

        Rare forms:

        1. Effect - verb - to implement or make happen: “The new legislation will effect a change in policy to …”
        2. Affect - noun - emotional state or expression: “His affect changed and you could see him cringe when the boss endorsed AI”

        The first two are what you want pretty much all of the time.

        1, 2, and 3 are all pronounced the same, with emphasis on the second syllable: “uh FECT”. Number 4 is pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable: “AFF ect”

        So that’s more than anyone wanted to know today :)

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            I remember that affect starts with an a, while effect starts with an e and verb has an e in the middle, so the one that doesn’t start with an e is the verb.

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        The following have similar meanings:

        • A affects B.
        • B is affected by A.
        • An effect on B is caused by A.