• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      If your system has allowed itself to devolve into “vote for my slightly less oppressive status quo or else you get abject oppression” then you kinda have to begin admitting the entire system is folly and needs to be dismantled.

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        Getting rid of Citizens United and implementing ranked choice voting will get rid of this. We have to continue voting for the most progressive candidates running in the primaries and still eating the shit sandwich when it’s an establishment dem if we ever want to fix it.

      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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        You’re not wrong. Easier said than done, though. Looks like we’ll be doing it the hard way, societal collapse.

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            Any solution that has to start with purges is an inherently bad solution. Collapse isn’t much better, the people that have already borne the worst of things will be the hardest hit. But it might also be wishful thinking: If the last ten months hasn’t caused it, what will?

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          newsom bulldozes homeless camps and arrests them while having a donor base of tech bro cryptofascists and real estate developers, Biden ships blockbuster bombs to Gaza, Obama drones multitudes and continues Bush’s “nation building” kleptocracies, Bill Clinton sets the future economic agenda for all of the above when he guts welfare spending while sacrificing local industry jobs for financialization via NAFTA

          This is fine.

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          Yes. Capitalist Imperialism is only marginally better than Fascism. It enables the rise of the other, afterall.

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      Remember when the Democrats propped up Trump thinking Clinton would curbstomp him because who the hell would vote for him? Good times. (Europe is doing the same, pushing the far right to pretend the vanilla right is the only viable opposition and actually pretty center, and then act surprised when everything implodes)

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        I do! Real It Can’t Happen Here moment. Kinda worse in Europe because It’s Already Happened There.

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          It already happened there 90 years ago. AND they get to see our results within this decade. They think afd is different from Trump somehow? Not significantly.

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      It’s a trick to keep preserving an awful status quo in perpetuity for your whole life.

      Surely the fascists will pack up and go home if the Democrats can just win this one time…

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          The “status quo” is partly that way because Democrats don’t provide instant gratification. The changes tend to be significant, but slow. In the next ten years, if the plans don’t get demolished, I’m going to be able to take passenger rail to Chicago.

          The problem is progress is slow, but destruction is fast. Every few years people get frustrated with how slowly the Dems are building the house of cards and they bring Republicans in to knock it down.

          And then people look back over the past decade and wonder why the house of cards is in the same state.

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          Sometimes you have to push through a bramble patch to get out of the dark woods and into the garden.