• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    thats because they are both GOP parties, one is just gop lite, the gop lite is designed to stop the GOP from getting to far, they have no interest in progress. thats why they dont repeal gop policies in the next presidencies for the most part. the “DEMS” are designed to stop any actual party thats left than center right from appearing, and the gop does what it always does, and often are sometimes kept in check by gop lite party. its just pratically RUSSIA-LITE. putin has control, but he allows a “faux captured opposition” now and then with no real power.

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    We need to change that perception, and make the politicians fear US, far worse.

    Democratic politicians are way too polite. If they won’t do it, then it’s time for us to fuck shit up.

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      If I had to fight a grizzly in my skivvies with only a spear or be in a room with that woman I’m fighting the bear. Also the man to her left looks like he just realized what face she is making.

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    Then, when you think about it long enough, you realize that the GOP base is scary because of guns; not because of intelligence.

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    yeah well at least everyone agrees the GOP base is scary, so that’s something I guess lol. There is still a cinder of objective reality we can all gather around, which is that the hardest right people in a country with 500 million guns are --shockingly-- a scary as fuck bunch.

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      I’m not scared of them because they have guns. I’m scared of them for the same reason I’m scared of a toddler with a grenade. They will blow up society because they thought it would make a cool splash in the pond.

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    I would say that actually we have no party representing the left. The Democrats are a kind of center right party on many major issues. But of course this all depends on your definitions.

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    If, by GOP base, you mean working class white Americans, I don’t think they’re actually afraid.

    Otherwise, they wouldn’t constantly be taking away all the structural supports keeping them somewhat healthy or giving them opportunities to improve their lives.

    If, by GOP base, you mean corporations and the billionaire class.

    Then… yea, you’re right.

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      Don’t listen to their words: look at their actions. Also, follow the money will always be relevant.

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    They don’t respect the people that keep voting for them, they know you think you have no other option and are exploiting it over and over. Whats the definition of insanity?

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      A lot of leftists don’t vote. The party doesn’t try to get the votes because historically the turn out is super low for leftists.

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        The turnout is low for any group that is dismissed by the parties. Why would you vote for people who ignore you?

        Give them a reason, they’ll vote.

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          Not voting for the dems lead to our current situation. Masked federal agents grabbing people off the streets, the longest shutdown in US history, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the list continues.

          Things would have been far from good, but sometimes people need to recognize that you gotta vote for self preservation. It shouldn’t be that way but here we are.

          Avoiding the formation of a fascist state seems like a good reason to vote to me

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            I agree with you, but I get why ignored, criticized, and betrayed groups wouldn’t see any reason to vote for either party. The chaos that we’ve been seeing over the last few years? Some people have been feeling that for decades. They gave up on America long ago, for good reason. They think they’ll be better off if both parties destroy each other, and we have a fresh start.

            I can appreciate their position, even if I don’t agree with it.

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          also because the OLD guard DNC doesnt market them in anyway, the gop got it down to a tee on some gen z, PROPAGANDA through social media, which is the best way to reach the younger generation. the dnc just doesnt do that, they stick to cable/national television where everything is curated.

          not to mention there isnt much of a leftist/democratic network as well. CNN AND pbs got astroturfed then taken over.

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    Because the Dem base doesn’t obey orders.

    The GOPs vote for the Party’s candidate every time. No question. They drive old folks to the polls; they put up signs; they get petitions signed.

    Dem voters are all over the place.

    Every Dem candidate since 1972 could be mistaken for Ted Kennedy.

    1972 Ronald Reagan would be too Liberal for the MAGAs of today.

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    This the same Dem base that consistently votes in neoliberal and ‘moderate’ fucks every fucking presidential primary, and most congressional primaries?

    The DNC is filled with shitheads and morons, make no mistake. Our most recent - and devastating - loss to fascism is overwhelmingly (though not exclusively) on their fucking heads. But this is a situation that has been set up by decades of the majority of American voters either refusing to fully engage with the civic process, or engaging in support of milquetoast middle-of-the-road shitheads who fit their suburban anxieties.

    “Oh, but it’s just because billionaires push propaganda!” Yeah, you can say the same thing about why Republican voters believe the dogshit they do, and it doesn’t excuse them either.

    Maybe the country is just not that fucking left.

    And that failure of the electorate to embrace an even slightly-left position may have killed us at this point.