They can’t get time off work on voting day, or would be fired or get into serious financial precarity if they did,
They got purged from voter rolls and don’t find this out untill they show up at the polls,
They do not have stable housing, perhaps literally no permanent address (homeless), perhaps they have to keep moving regularly and can’t keep their current address correct in every single account or system that requires that,
They have no reliable method of transportation to voting places,
They don’t have a drivers liscense because they don’t own or drive a car,
They have medical conditions / disabilities that prevent them from being able to get to voting places,
They do not have or cannot reliably use some kind of mail in voting system, often for some combination of some of the above reasons.
Leftists, actual leftists, not liberals who think they are leftists, tend to be broke, broken, and literally disenfranchised.
Yeah, a good number of them also just don’t vote because they know the districts they are in are gerrymandered to hell, or they are ideologically opposed to it, or something like that.
But, a whole lot would like their voices to be heard… only to find that no one is willing to give them an opportunity to speak.
That opportunity to electorally speak requires and assumes a basic societal baseline that everyone is at, yet society does not actually guarantee this baseline… so, the many people who fall through the cracks, they are unpeople, they don’t count, they are definitionally disenfranchised.
(As you can see, all of what I have outlined often forms at least part of an ideological basis for why electoralism is bullshit.)
(Personally, while I do think electoralism is indeed bullshit in many ways, I still very much think that all who can vote should vote, because I know that if we don’t try, the system will just pretend more and more of us do not even exist, more and more privileged people will hear the media report bullshit numbers telling them that we do not exist… and things will get worse, faster.)
Bernie didn’t get the primary in 2016 or 2020. Primaries typically have 5-10% voter turnout. I felt like the only person voting for Bernie both times. If leftist voter turnout was higher, then he would have won the primary.
also because the OLD guard DNC doesnt market them in anyway, the gop got it down to a tee on some gen z, PROPAGANDA through social media, which is the best way to reach the younger generation. the dnc just doesnt do that, they stick to cable/national television where everything is curated.
not to mention there isnt much of a leftist/democratic network as well. CNN AND pbs got astroturfed then taken over.
The Conservative Propaganda Machine is a real thing, conceived and constructed by Dick Cheney and Roger Ailes following the Watergate scandal, which they blamed on the “liberal” media for reporting their CRIMES. It has evolved over the years, and become an astonishingly effective tool.
While they were doing that, the Dems were doing absolutely nothing to counter or match it, and here we are.
Not voting for the dems lead to our current situation. Masked federal agents grabbing people off the streets, the longest shutdown in US history, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the list continues.
Things would have been far from good, but sometimes people need to recognize that you gotta vote for self preservation. It shouldn’t be that way but here we are.
Avoiding the formation of a fascist state seems like a good reason to vote to me
I agree with you, but I get why ignored, criticized, and betrayed groups wouldn’t see any reason to vote for either party. The chaos that we’ve been seeing over the last few years? Some people have been feeling that for decades. They gave up on America long ago, for good reason. They think they’ll be better off if both parties destroy each other, and we have a fresh start.
I can appreciate their position, even if I don’t agree with it.
A lot of leftists don’t vote. The party doesn’t try to get the votes because historically the turn out is super low for leftists.
A lot of leftists don’t vote because:
They can’t get time off work on voting day, or would be fired or get into serious financial precarity if they did,
They got purged from voter rolls and don’t find this out untill they show up at the polls,
They do not have stable housing, perhaps literally no permanent address (homeless), perhaps they have to keep moving regularly and can’t keep their current address correct in every single account or system that requires that,
They have no reliable method of transportation to voting places,
They don’t have a drivers liscense because they don’t own or drive a car,
They have medical conditions / disabilities that prevent them from being able to get to voting places,
They do not have or cannot reliably use some kind of mail in voting system, often for some combination of some of the above reasons.
Leftists, actual leftists, not liberals who think they are leftists, tend to be broke, broken, and literally disenfranchised.
Yeah, a good number of them also just don’t vote because they know the districts they are in are gerrymandered to hell, or they are ideologically opposed to it, or something like that.
But, a whole lot would like their voices to be heard… only to find that no one is willing to give them an opportunity to speak.
That opportunity to electorally speak requires and assumes a basic societal baseline that everyone is at, yet society does not actually guarantee this baseline… so, the many people who fall through the cracks, they are unpeople, they don’t count, they are definitionally disenfranchised.
(As you can see, all of what I have outlined often forms at least part of an ideological basis for why electoralism is bullshit.)
(Personally, while I do think electoralism is indeed bullshit in many ways, I still very much think that all who can vote should vote, because I know that if we don’t try, the system will just pretend more and more of us do not even exist, more and more privileged people will hear the media report bullshit numbers telling them that we do not exist… and things will get worse, faster.)
The turnout is low for any group that is dismissed by the parties. Why would you vote for people who ignore you?
Give them a reason, they’ll vote.
Bernie didn’t get the primary in 2016 or 2020. Primaries typically have 5-10% voter turnout. I felt like the only person voting for Bernie both times. If leftist voter turnout was higher, then he would have won the primary.
also because the OLD guard DNC doesnt market them in anyway, the gop got it down to a tee on some gen z, PROPAGANDA through social media, which is the best way to reach the younger generation. the dnc just doesnt do that, they stick to cable/national television where everything is curated.
not to mention there isnt much of a leftist/democratic network as well. CNN AND pbs got astroturfed then taken over.
The Conservative Propaganda Machine is a real thing, conceived and constructed by Dick Cheney and Roger Ailes following the Watergate scandal, which they blamed on the “liberal” media for reporting their CRIMES. It has evolved over the years, and become an astonishingly effective tool.
While they were doing that, the Dems were doing absolutely nothing to counter or match it, and here we are.
Not voting for the dems lead to our current situation. Masked federal agents grabbing people off the streets, the longest shutdown in US history, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the list continues.
Things would have been far from good, but sometimes people need to recognize that you gotta vote for self preservation. It shouldn’t be that way but here we are.
Avoiding the formation of a fascist state seems like a good reason to vote to me
I agree with you, but I get why ignored, criticized, and betrayed groups wouldn’t see any reason to vote for either party. The chaos that we’ve been seeing over the last few years? Some people have been feeling that for decades. They gave up on America long ago, for good reason. They think they’ll be better off if both parties destroy each other, and we have a fresh start.
I can appreciate their position, even if I don’t agree with it.
I’d say leftist turnout perfectly matches leftist representation on the ballot.
Then how do you explain 2016 and 2020 when barely anyone voted for Bernie? He was on the ballot. Primaries typically have 5-10% turn out.
Strangely enough; not considering the leftists leads to more leftists.
thats another problem, plus all that apathy. games, youtube, influencers are all distraction to that politics.