• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    A great American city is on the precipice of being run by a communist who has publicly embraced a terroristic ideology,” Representative Andy Ogles from the Republican party said

    What the fuck are these cretins on?

    Is anyone left from Hitler a “communist” now?

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      Boomers grew up on anti-communist propaganda. But unlike other people, they didn’t use critical thinking and introspection. Therefore, because they still refuse to learn and grow, it’s still the scariest thing they can imagine…

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      24 hours ago

      What do you mean “now?” Americans have had this habit of calling anyone whose politics they disapprove of a “communist” or “socialist” for a very long time.

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            You misspelled rugged individualist, billionaire and centimillionaire overlords that they think they can become with the right luck. Even though that luck was mostly being born into wealth.

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          Both in Fascism and Socialism/Communism the State owns the companies, or at least controls them.

          Meanwhile in Neoliberalism the companies (well, Money in general) sits above the State, which is how it differs from Fascism: in both systems common people are at the bottom of the pile and whilst in Fascism a few people control the State which sits above Money, in Neoliberalism a few people control most of the Money which sits above the State (which is supposedly controlled by The People through elections, but since it’s subsidiary to Money that means that what The People control via the vote is only that which Money doesn’t care about)

          In Democracy people are supposed to be at the top of the pile, controlling the State through their vote, with the State in turn being above the rest, including Money.

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              The merging of government and corporate power structures has more in common with fascism than with authoritarian communism or liberal libertarian socialism.

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              It’s more just that while they’re calling Mamdani a communist, at the same time they’re doing the thing that is literally the single most Communist thing a government can do: have the state gain direct ownership or control of the means of production. Communism is many things depending on where, when, and who you ask. But the bare minimum, the common denominator under all forms? State owns of the means of production. And here’s Trump literally seizing the means of production. Not just giving out grants or loans, but literally taking a permanent equity stake in a major international company. That is the literal, most basic definition of a Communist action. If literally seizing the means of production isn’t Communist, what the hell is?

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                Except communism isn’t when the state seizes the means of production, it’s when the workers seize the means of production. Anarchism, for example, is a form of communism that specifically calls for the abolition of the state.

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            I think the person you are replying to may have been trying to point out the irony of the Americans who voted for Trump because they don’t want the state spending money on its poor citizens, when they turn a blind eye to the state investing heavily in private industry.

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      Is anyone left from Hitler a “communist” now?

      Literally and without exaggeration, yes, that’s what they truly believe.

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        20 hours ago

        I feel like this is unfair, because you are leaving out a pretty important part of the issue.

        These people also think Hitler was a moderate.

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      What the fuck are these cretins on?

      They know that nobody with a red hat as EVER read or listened to an actual thing Mamdani has ever said. They could say he flew one of the planes on 9/11 and most of the base would believe it.

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      I’m starting to think the GOP got Quantum Leaped by the party from the 80s. Not going be surprised if we start seeing persecution of the color red.

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        I’d be a little surprised given how tightly the Republican party has taken to using red as their representative colour (and blue for Democrats).