Another round of terminations, combined with previous layoffs and departures, has reduced the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention workforce by about 3,000 people since January.
Make miasma theory great again.
I read this in Jar Jar Bink’s voice
If anyone at the CDC is reading this: destroy the smallpox sample before trump decides to use it.
Fucking imbecile MAGA ghouls, all of this because of contention over well-established, well-researches, well-supported results from inoculation campaigns, and the ideology surrounding medical treatment for the trans community. A lot of people are going to get sick in the U.S. (I know, I know, they already are but Measles outbreaks are set to increase in scale and scope), and this is going to get really, really fucking bad. Expect for people that you know to start dying from diseases that were killing members of your grandparent’s generation. See image of U.S. states affected by Measles outbreaks in 2025:
vaccines? where we’re going, we don’t need vaccines!
dies of Scarlet Fever
(it’s hell)
Expect for people that you know to start dying from diseases
Eh, I’ve decided people need to learn the hard way. Meanwhile, I’ll be getting my government-sponsored shots & boosters for free here in the south. Good luck with everything, neighbors!
I’ve decided people need to learn the hard way
Bold of you to assume people will learn. Didn’t you hear about that couple whose kids died from measles and they said afterwards that they still feel their decision to not vaccinate the kid was right.
Some don’t learn, even after getting lessons the hard way. Others forget very quickly. Someone posted this scanned news clipping from the early 20th century in light of similar ‘anti-masking’ during the COVID pandemic. It’s always the same types of bullheaded dolts, and they’re not the only ones falling victim to their imbecile behaviour.
I did not and that’s wildly insane.
Our youngest had some form of measles before she could get the MMR vaccine. Wildest part was taking her to the hospital and no one knowing wtf to do. The doctors all basically shrugged and said good luck. She seems fine now 3 years later, but her immune system seems wildly fucked up. Like totally fine to some sicknesses and horrible responses to others.
Edit: I mean this in a, “It’s Illegal to say what I want to do to you” way. If you don’t get the MMR vaccine when you could’ve, you are directly responsible for my child’s suffering. I want you to feel that suffering.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/measles-does-long-term-damage-immune-system-studies-show
Clinicians and epidemiologists have long known that measles infection increases childhood morbidity and mortality for as long as 5 years after illness, and measles in the pre-vaccination era was likely associated with at least half of all childhood deaths from infectious diseases.
We are very aware of the long term damage it may have caused. Hoping that us not being dumber than a bag of rocks and getting her vaccinated now helps.
Don’t hesitate, if someone is stupid enough to do it and openly admit it, just punch them in the mouth immediately. No warning, right in the teeth.
Our youngest had some form of measles before she could get the MMR vaccine.
She got is from someone, and there is a good chance this person was unvaccinated…
I’m glad that someone said this, it’s often lost in the conversation about communicable diseases. Vaccination doesn’t guarantee that you won’t catch, suffer from, or transmit an illness. The jabs aren’t Superman essence, it’s just that in my understanding, you’re more likely to be affected in a way more akin to getting hit by a bicycle than a MAC truck (you’re hurt but not hopelessly crippled or killed outright), and less likely to pass it along. To what degree, I couldn’t say, but it’s less which is good by me.
Except that vaccines partially work because of herd immunity. My kid is and was vaccinated against whooping cough, but enough fucktards here in Texas refuse vaccines that it is spreading and he caught it despite being vaccinated. He was ultimately fine because he was 14 with a good immune system, but pertussis can be fatal for some patients, especially those too young to get vaccinated.
You don’t sound like your smart enough to understand this explanation, but at least I tried.
I have a degree in pharmacology and biochemistry. Back off.
vaccines partially work because of herd immunity
Yeah? I bet you’re an expert.
your smart
The irony.
They shouldn’t have made a personal attack like that, but they’re not wrong. Herd immunity is needed. Individual vaccination, while helpful, isn’t fool proof. Especially for highly infectious diseases like measles.
Idk, my advisor, a PhD in immunology, argued that the evidence for herd immunity in vaccine effectiveness was a bit shaky. I think I’m gonna listen to her rather than a random commenter with a personal agenda to Prove Me Wrong like that commenter.
If you actually studied this science, then you should have learned not to listen to any one person’s opinion. There is no shortage of Nobel laureates saying stupid things for which they know nothing about.
If someone says the science is shakey then it’s more scientific to believe them than believe someone who is confident the theory is correct.
I think I’m going to listen to my immunology professor on things about immunology, but thanks for the reminder not to listen to people’s opinions, especially online.
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘personal agenda.’ I’m legitimately trying to have a productive conversation so please don’t take anything said as a personal affront. We’re just trying to express the importance of herd immunity as it stands from expert consensus on the subject.
If you have any studies on herd immunity not being as important, I would love to read through them.
I understand why you trust your advisor. I’m lucky enough to be friends with someone who was a professor of infectious disease, has a PhD in virology and created a vaccine. They are my go to for anything on the subject matter. Again, anything you can share on the topic is greatly appreciated.
please don’t take anything said as a personal affront
That was for
You don’t sound like your smart enough to understand this explanation
Non scholarly https://abcnews.go.com/Health/measles-breakthrough-cases-vaccination-important/story?id=120276354
scholarly https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9413104/
Given 97% efficacy of measles vaccine, how do you explain many countries have had measles elimination for so long?
I don’t think you were following the thread closely. I’m not arguing against the efficacy of vaccines. There’s exactly one sentence about herd immunity in your second link, and even then I’m only sharing the opinion of someone I know.
I have a friend working there. At least she was until 4 AM Saturday. But surprise, she’s working there again as of Sunday. Pure chaos!
Only been let’s see here… ah 4 years since the last global pandemic. Yep, good time to gut the agency tasked with responding to pandemics 🫠
Gutting it again. Trump killed the pandemic response team in his first term.
The first time he pulled any funding the US had for foreign pandemic prevention because Republicans don’t see the point of spending money on another person. Just a year and a half before COVID started actually. Because they know better than anyone else that infections unlike illegal aliens respect international boarders and an endemic in Asia can never become a global pandemic that reaches American shores. That’s obviously antifa propaganda.
/S incase it wasn’t obvious enough
Yeah. Because just not looking for new diseases erupting is such a great idea. I hope Europe and China are doing their due diligence, and hopefully we don’t have the next big disease kick off in the USA.
Oh it most certainly will. The worst pandemic is one full of ignorant people and leadership. They’re basically a powdered keg from a disease standpoint.
Imagine if dumpy had been president when covid hit. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been if he’d been president.
No point in diligence when the response was poorly coordinated between European countries and China just denied SARSCov2 was even a problem. Sweden and Holland did fuck all.
We did do a lot. But our government has done the job of kicking the can for years. Thanks to Rutte…
Next pandemic is gonna be lit.
As in, the cities will burn.
They already are.
DEC 10 2024 - Malibu
Malibu barbie was asked for comment.
Well, fire is a good method for eradicating certain pathogens. Just hopefully, the idiot king doesn’t start talking about getting fire inside people to fight the disease.
This looks like a silent invasion 70s script.
They Live
Friend of mine working on big shit there got furloughed then fully fired as of Friday from the CDC.
You ask why? I think the ideological side of Maga understands, on some basic level, the challenges of ecological overshoot. They heard about degrowth and are trying the psychopath version of getting populations down.
Short of an all out war, disease is the next best way to shave some numbers off our 8.2 billion. Remember the US CDC also studies every nightmare bacteria and virus, including gain of function. Now we have a bunch of unemployed and unemployable virologists whose degrees just became useless. I wonder if anyone might steal from their employer and have a 12 Monkeys kind of time.
Apparently MAGA has innate super-immunity and doesn’t have any need for the CDC or vaccines.
Fascists believe that only the strongest should survive and everyone else must die. So if you get sick and die it proves you were inherently inferior and didn’t deserve to live. Eugenicism and the abuse of evolutionary theory are rife among the far right. And they all assume that they themselves are the Übermenschen whose genetic superiority will protect them from disease, so they have no need for government protection, unlike their inferiors. They’ll believe this right up until they’re in intensive care with bird flu, whereupon they’ll start panicking and changing their minds, just like Republicans did under COVID. But this message won’t get through to their peers because their peers too don’t care about it until they themselves are in trouble. Unless they’re wealthy, in which case they’ll buy themselves the care they’re denying to others, and consider this very fact proof that they are superior and deserve to live.
But this message won’t get through to their peers because their peers too don’t care about it until they themselves are in trouble.
This is a fundamental aspect of conservatism. Just look at MTG suddenly standing up for ACA subsidies now that her adult children’s premiums will be doubling. She literally said so herself.
That’s right, they have those magic beds.
