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Well, I assume the idea is to see the children before they’re that close…
That being said, from my small vehicle I could probably tell what shoes someone is wearing from the same distance that the driver of one of these monstrosities can barely tell their hair color.
I get why trucks exist, I just don’t get why so many people drive them as their primary or only vehicle when they don’t regularly haul anything more than groceries.
Well, I assume the idea is to see the children before they’re that close…
It is, but that does not help you when you stop to talk with the neighbour and their child runs in front of your car while you don’t see.
It should at least be mandatory to have a front & rear facing cameras and proximity sensors for cars like this.
EPA regulations on emissions, in relation to size, caused light trucks (and the SUVs based on them) to grow to the size you see. Ironically, the fuel efficient small pickup trucks and SUVs we grew up with in the 80s and 90s don’t meet modern standards. I die a little inside every time I see one of the Nissan trucks, like the one I totaled. ;_;
They have become prohibitively expensive to have as a secondary vehicle, if someone is in a position to need a truck occasionally, most people can’t afford to have it as anything other than their daily driver.
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It’s a form of engagement hacking.
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!
Four wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats thirty-five!
No, never. That would scream mass transit, or the B(us) word. Unacceptable. Think of all the unclean, dirty people with darker skin that I would be forced to look at unfairly.
I thought this was about the freaky little mankins, I was like “yeah they’re freaky, but banned is a bit harsh” then I saw that the background was a modern truck grille, not a building.
Oof yeah ban both
Why do our car manufacturers here even remotely think this is okay?
Because it’s legal for them to kill us but illegal for us to kill them back.
They don’t think it’s okay, but neither do they care. They want money even if it means killing kids.
Trying to ban them would be extraordinarily difficult. A potential solution would be to push to reclassify them as trucks, under trucking regulations (I’m unsure how this is done in the US). Once you need a tachograph and a requirement to keep driving records, it would cut back on sales. It also still allows “legitimate” usage. This would weaken the argument against the change.
Basically anything where you can’t see a 5 year old within 0.5m of your bumper should be under “truck” rules, not “car” rules.
For this purpose, it’s not a question of banning them, but adding pedestrian safety regulations. You can still build these monstrosities while also providing better visibility and less likelihood for victims to be run over.
It’s just banning the “wall” of the front. That’s only required as a style choice and style should not trump safety
I’ve actually been paying more attention lately since my brother bought a Chevy
BehemothSilverado EV. As a big and tall guy I’m used to being bigger than most people I encounter, but looking at the “wall” at the front of these vehicles, it is also well above my center of mass. I would also be thrown down and run over. It’s not just children but there really is no “big enough” to survive getting hit with those(And yes I will keep giving my brother a hard time. After All these years of owning a house and large property where he could have argued he needed a truck, he gets one after he gave up that property. He bought this monstrosity to commute alone and do road trips alone. Nothing to tow. Nothing to haul.)
“Nothing to to tow, nothing to haul.” is so typical. And when they do it’s something even a sedan could pull or a van would have been better for. And then they’ll claim they want winter safety even as I comfortably rip by them in a blizzard with my goddamn BRZ(partly because I actually bought winter tires and they think their frozen “all-terrain” tires are good enough).
We fixed the problem with SUV blindspots by putting rear view cameras on cars, I almost wonder if the solution here is more cameras. Front-facing would get much dirtier tho.
Maybe, but why not
- bumper must be a specific height
- headlights must be a specific height
- hood must be sloped so a standard driver can see X
- front face must be lower than center of mass for X, so they are more likely to go over than under
- hood must deform on pedestrian impact (I believe this is required in parts of Europe)
You can do all this to greatly improve serviceability of your victims and it only impacts style choices. You can still drive your monstrosity while not killing other people
@BanMe @AA5B Cameras do nothing for people who are hit with the vehicle because the driver is operating it negligently or to reduce the environmental impact (in fact they increase it by using more energy & rare earth minerals). Cameras are a very expensive harm reduction strategy, not a full solution to the problem of oversized vehicles.
I’m feeling similarly. Require a minimum sight lines for shorter humans in front of the vehicle, and lower weight/size limitations on vehicles for a standard Class D license, and a short 1-2 year grandfather period for folks who already own a vehicle that they’ll require additional licensing to continue driving so that they can either trade it or get their ducks in a row and continue driving their vehicle legally.
These gigantic trucks and SUVs are unacceptable on our roads and they keep adding extra wear to our roads due to the increased weight, require larger parking spaces and of course are far more deadly to those outside of the vehicle in any kind of collision. They need to be regulated back into the niches their classes were originally designed to fill.
And for those saying “oh but I need a bed for this that and the other” guess what? you can buy a trailer. Drive around an efficient vehicle then hook up an 8 foot trailer (bigger than basically any truck bed these days!) when you need to haul shit
Right. Get those kids if from front my truck. I gotta go to Walmart to get a bag of cool ranch Doritos.
Did you have a stroke
WTF ? Now we have to deal with monstertrucks ?
*fucking. You can say fucking on the internet. Don’t worry, we won’t tell your mommy.
I didn’t know, fuck you very much ! :-)
Oh wow. They did the math.
But how will I advertise how insecure I am about my small wiener if I can’t drive a monster with five gallons to the mile on diesel?
Don’t worry, yours is legally a prosthesis which is protected under the ADA
Emotional support vehicles, lol
Pavement princesses. Will never haul a load heavier than some groceries, maybe a couple 2x4s, and the owner’s fat ass.
Gender Affirming
I concur.
No more creepy mannequins.
yeah, I thought OP was struggling with some dark thoughts before I realized what sub it was.
Since I live in a place where driving is necessary (Texas), I drive a smaller electric car.
From my perspective, even small SUVs are far too big. If I’m behind them at a light, I can’t see when the light changes.
I was recently surprised to learn that in other countries, they have popular versions of pickup trucks that are smaller than almost anything you can find here in the states.
Anybody who buys a vehicle that size in OP’s picture would have to be a sociopath. They do not consider how other people are affected by their selfish actions.
From my perspective, even small SUVs are far too big. If I’m behind them at a light, I can’t see when the light changes.
Have you tried stopping further back? Works with lorries too. Also means you have room to manoeuvre without reversing if the vehicle breaks down.
The only reason I need to see the light change is if the light is at an intersection with a lot of traffic so I can toot my horn at inattentive drivers more quickly.
So, it’s not particularly important, and often, those intersections need you to stay closer to the car in front of you, because especially in Texas, I think, probably 70-ish percent of drivers don’t know how to use lanes correctly. They line up in one lane leaving a second lane almost empty. So you have to pull forward to give more people behind you the chance to change into a good lane.
TLDR I want to see the light to help traffic move, but pulling forward can also help traffic move.
The general rule is that you should be able to see the rear tyres of the car in front. If you can’t, you’re too close.
And a slice of tarmac just below/behind those tyres.
Yeah, I’m learning to drive at the moment and my instructor tells me I should be able to see tyres on tarmac when stopping.
They really should be! They’re like cockroaches here in Alberta…they’re everywhere.
I know right, children are the worst
