• ILoveUnions@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Even if there was passenger train service on the existing lines here, a lot of people would need a vehicle to get to the station

    BIKE. BIKE TO THE TRAIN STATION

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      9 days ago

      It also solves the problem at the other end where I’m 4 miles from my office.

      Trains don’t make it easy to get bikes on but that’s easily resolved also

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        8 days ago

        Yup. Here in Chicago we now have bike racks inside the trains so you can bring your bike into the city on the metra, as well as allowed in all trains including the colored lines outside of peak hours

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      9 days ago

      While a lot of people can, some live far away, or have small kids, or the weather doesn’t allow it, or…

      There is no one single solution, every bit helps, and often they help each other.

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        8 days ago

        Small kids doesn’t stop you from biking lmfao. It just changes what setup of bike you need to have.

        the weather doesn’t allow it, or…

        The only weather that would prevent it is a hurricane and you shouldn’t be driving in one of those either.

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          8 days ago

          There’s weather I would prefer a house over a tent. Similarly there’s weather I would drive in that I wouldn’t bike in (even with a raincoat).

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            8 days ago

            If you can’t stand the slightest inconvenience to yourself for a better world, the world will never improve.

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          8 days ago

          Spoken like someone who hasn’t had to deal with kids. Or worked a job with a dress code.

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            7 days ago

            No, it’s spoken like someone who’s been to the numerous countries where they bike with their kids just fine.

            worked a job with a dress code

            A 5-7 mile commute is doable without being sweaty with the right bike.

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                  5 days ago

                  Cars exist too, and a whole lot more effective than a raincoat or a bubble. It’s a solved problem.

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                    4 days ago

                    Cars are a problem. They pollute(yes, even electric ones), are costly to run, greatly increase the danger of neighborhoods, cause a reduction in smaller businesses. They make it more expensive for people who don’t have money to get around, make it harder for children to get safely from place to place. They generate sizeable areas of development damage to growing people along major highways and roads(again, even electric causes this).

                    It’s not a solved problem, cars are a problem.

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        8 days ago

        I think distance is a pretty good reason not to. Just not wanting to is a fair excuse too, honestly. A car is convenient.

        That said, at the point where the weather prohibits going by bicycle, in my experience at least, you generally just don’t go anywhere because it’d be perilous in a car as well. I recall when I visited Kiruna some years ago, other than the cars, most people I saw were getting around on kicksleds and bicycles. Even saw a couple of dog sleds.

        As for kids, what I’ve generally seen here are three options; chariots (can usually hold up to two kids), parcel shelf seats (one child), or the kid bikes themselves. I was taught to ride a bicycle at three, and at seven I biked to and from school on my own.

        Granted, in the U.S. I can see this not happening on account of everything being so bloody spread out that you need a car, and even if you did put up with the distance, the infrastructure isn’t there; you can’t go on the motorway with a bicycle. Urban planning over in the states is abysmal.

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          8 days ago

          Overall agree. The weather I had in mind was mainly rain, super hard to avoid when biking, a non issue in a car. Wind can be unpleasant as well.

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      8 days ago

      You can not bike the roads where I live. Also, there is no bus station or train station to bike to.

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      9 days ago

      I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains.

      I, personally, could bike or walk because the station would be particularly close to my residence. But, there are others in the county where to get to the closest station they’d be biking much further than they are currently healthy enough to accomplish.

      Bikes are not a good option at this density either.

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        8 days ago

        I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains.

        Raincoats! I have a nice yellow raincoat that folds up and inverts into its own pocket, turning into a little square you can tuck away in a bag or something. It’s super convenient.

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          8 days ago

          Okay but what if I’m sopping wet with sweat from the heat and I also smell bad now.

          Unless the general stink of the any large concentration of humans will overpower it.

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        8 days ago

        I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains

        If only science could devise some sort of way to keep you dry in the rain. One day, perhaps

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        8 days ago

        Caring about convenience over the environment and health is exactly the problem. They’ll get healthy enough.

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            8 days ago

            Ablest is when pro environment . Yeah no. It’s easy to create exceptions for the small portion of the population who is fully incapable of biking. Less car dependency will allow those who can’t drive to get around far more safely, actually leading to more mobility for people with issues like legal blindness that prevent them from driving but not prevent them from other multimodal forms of transit

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              8 days ago

              “They’ll get healthy enough” is an albist view, no matter what else you might believe in.

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                8 days ago

                It’s strictly true. It’s not ablest. The overwhelming majority of those who cannot have no serious underlying reason as to why not