Sink all the yachts
Orcas are more into the class war than the commies at this stage.
That’s cuz commies are too busy defending dictatorships to care about the working class
What people think of when they hear the word “yacht:”
The size of boat the whales are actually attacking:
I know everybody wants to root for the whales attacking the billionaire 1%, but that’s not what’s actually happening.
Oh no, the poor, poor 40’ sailboat boat owners. Whatever shall we do.
I know plenty of people who are by no means rich who live on boats that size. Its basically the marine equivalent of living in a camper. My best friend lived on one for more tha a decade. he got for like $3k and put like $9k of work into it. Had his first kid living on that boat because he couldn’t afford to live on land.
You “only” need to be a hundred millionaire in order to afford to maintain the one in the second photo.
Many people rent them out. I know because I’ve met several people who use the service for their vacations every year. It’s quite popular, and sometimes comes cheaper than to actually rent an airbnb or a hotel room when split between multiple people.
A 40ft Bohemian? A five year old one will set you back €200k in good condition, and cost around 10% of its value in maintenance, mooring and repairs each year.
People have cars more expensive than that on their driveways.
And they spend 20k a year to maintain their car?
That’s more than many people make in a year. Get a grip.
If you’re not making 20k in a year you need to find a different job.
You’re right, many people don’t make 20k per year. But my point was that you don’t need hundreds of millions to afford a sailing yacht, and I don’t need to be attacked for adding some data to your comment. Perhaps it is you who should get “a grip” on your interpersonal skills?
most of Earth’s popukation makes less than $20k a year
Erm ackshually 🤓☝️
…not if you are poor quick check on google. Found the world inequality database. Richest 3% of income is $250k per year usd 240 million people reach this level globally. Richest 6% wealth wise globally is around $1 million usd 480 million people have that wealth which i mean is a lot but that is probably all land and housing. Soooo yeah way less then 1% globally could really afford this boat.
You’d be surprised how many owners of 40-foot “yachts” own them instead of houses and live aboard full-time in order to save money (among other lifestyle reasons).
Fucking lol. The contortions!
Sure, man. Sure.
Boats are typically considered yachts when they are or exceed 24 meters.
A potential buyer of a superyacht with a net worth of around €25,000,000 might consider that 10-30% of their net worth invested in a used superyacht is something that they can reasonably afford, whereas potential buyers of new yachts might want to have a net worth in excess of €50,000,000 to feel comfortable.
It is estimated that around 130,000 people may have this level of wealth worldwide although experts reckon that only a few thousand individuals are actively involved in owning, building, buying and selling the approximately 8,700 motor and 1,750 sailing superyachts over 24 metres that have been built.
There’s no definition in dictionary, but here’s what Wikipedia cites for what to call a yacht: https://www.boats.com/on-the-water/when-is-a-boat-also-a-yacht/
This is arbitrary, and just an illustration of how anyone would call what they want a yacht. 24 meters is nowhere required, and this discussion repeats again and again
It is very arbitrary, sure.
I think a main thing is people who describe their boats as yachts usually aren’t going from paycheck to paycheck.
Yeah, but people with more expensive cars than that are still likely millionaires. I’ve been thinking of buying a boat for years, but that boat would still be a lot smaller than these. (And I still haven’t because it’s not just the purchase, but also maintenance and mooring.)
Although friends of us do have a boat that might be that size. They also live on a houseboat. They don’t have a regular house, and if they have a car, I haven’t seen it.
So I guess middle class people can own a boat like that, but it takes sacrifices in other areas.
I’ve been thinking of buying a ~40’ sailboat like that (an older used one for <$100k, BTW), but it would be to live aboard full-time and become nomadic while either selling or renting out my house.
See? Then it just becomes an affordable (if cramped) house.
I’ve also known people who had their own massive custom built catamaran that they lived on. Traveled around the world on that thing, accepting paying passengers to travel with them part of the way.
The reality is even the small ones aren’t good for sea life. They’re destroying the sea floor and it’s quite detrimental to the ecosystem.
For someone with no prior knowledge - can you explain why is that?
Replied to the comment under yours instead of to you, so check that out. But the person who replied to you pointed out a few of the problems.
I’m guessing he’s complaining about either damage from anchors or toxic effects of anti-fouling paint.
I’m not sure if this is the exact study I read, but it’s at least very similar. I’ve also seen tourists disposing of their waste and garbage directly into the sea.
Oh yeah, tons of middle-class and poor people own sailboats…
You would be surprised. Walk around a small town marina sometime. You have the rich assholes but you also have 75 year olds who move their boat once a year, if that, and struggle to pay shore fees and maintenance on a fixed income.
Not much different from a trailer park.
Oh that’s true I literally forgot about those people!
I would argue there are still not tons of them, but it’s a good point
A tonne of people is only about 15 people.
The age of man is over. The age of the orca has begun.
Given his record, I actually believe Bernie when he says this.
I’m on team Orca. One less rich fucks yacht taking up space.
I am also Team Orca. It’s their sea after all, and we’re fucking it up.
I don’t know who you consider a rich fuck but a yacht like this cost maybe $70k. It’s not much different than owning a car.
Shit, I hadn’t thought of that, the poor, poor people who can afford $70,000 recreation craft. Won’t someone think of the sailboat owners.
Where do you draw the line? Who do you consider a “rich fuck”? I know a carpenter who restored an ultra light airplane. This rich fuck better watch out when the class war comes!
If you’re not living in a tent in a public park then you don’t deserve to live.
And people wonder why everyone hates leftists.
And everyone has a $70k car, right?
The people in here defending private sailboats like it’s something anyone can do is insane.
Yeah let me just go out and drop $70k on a thing I use a few times a year in the water. Nothing rich-person about that…
I think it’s less about acting like it’s something anyone can do, and more about acting like it’s something people who aren’t ultrawealthy can do.
Having wealth isn’t inherently bad. It’s the distribution of wealth that has fucked our system.
Yes it’s just like owning a car! Which we primarily use to get to work and earn money to pay for the car!!! What do you do in a boat??? Oh ya!!! Not working and scoot around all day. Must be nice!
What do you do in a boat???
A boat like this one? You fuckin’ live in it instead of a house (and at a much lower cost).
I mean, not this exact one from the article because it was a rental, but in general a lot of yachts in this ~40’ range are owned by couples and used for the nautical equivalent of #vanlife.
Lot’s of people have hobby cars. I don’t own a second car or a boat but I don’t consider everyone who has one rich. Those people still go to work every day and save for retirement. We’re talking about good wage job, not being a millionaire.
I doubt the cost of owning a thing end with the price of purchase. At least for boat you have to park it somewhere, maintenance for a yacht probably gonna cost a lot because it’s specialised. That’s why it’s usually for people with a lot of extra money to own one.
The initial cost of a boat is like 1% of what the person ends up spending to maintain it.
There is a reason why people say that boats are, “a hole in the water to throw your money into”
The real class war will be between people who ate yesterday and people who did not eat yesterday. I’m pretty sure there’s some food on that boat.
The real class war will be between people who ate yesterday and people who did not eat yesterday.
The billionaire class wants you to think someone with a million dollars is your enemy. And they want the millionaire to think you are their enemy.
But you know what the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars is? About a billion dollars.
The enemy is the ultrawealthy, and the more we remind the vaguely rich about this, the better our chances of actually changing things. At least that’s how I see it.
I ate yesterday. You’re saying I’m in the same boat (pun intended) as Bezos?
My car cost €8000, and that’s also about the budget I have for a boat.
My house cost $100k, and that’s also about the budget I have for a live-aboard boat.
I love orcas
“Attack” or “Fender bender oopsie”?
Yeah but no dead humans
Orcas have almost never killed humans in recorded history. The recorded cases were either jailed orcas, or mistaken identity. There are however many documented cases of orcas offering catch to humans, and behavior like that. They “kill” boats, not humans.
As soon as there are dead humans, there will be dead orcas. Smart whales play it safe.
Orcas know not to leave witnesses if they do.
Those boats know what they did. I presume scraped some of their pod with propeller or something, they are revenging themselves.
According to the specialist talking about it on TV here in Portugal, they’re pretty much just playing with the boat’s rudder and it’s the side-damage that might sink the boat (normally it doesn’t) and they don’t even know that they’re sinking it because the actual sinking happens hours later, so after they’ve left the area.
Apparently most boats “attacked” by orcas just end up with a broken rudder.
Those boats know what they did. I presume scraped some of their pod with propeller or something, they are revenging themselves.
IIRC the current theory is that it’s a game juvenile males started playing for fun.
Also, sailboats and orcas are not like powerboats and manatees. The notion that the boats somehow injured the orcas is not plausible for several reasons:
- A 40 foot sailboat tops out at about 10 mph, while orcas can swim over 3x that speed.
- Sailboat props are often directly behind the hull and surrounded by rudder, rather than protruding below it where it could hit an animal swimming below the boat.
