What if 8 years of election fraud bullshit was the setup to poison the waters when they actually use the techniques?
This is Russian psyops 101: play/fund both sides so when both are revealed corrupt, the populace is too confused to know what’s real.
So republicans say, for years, “Your Russian election claim is a hoax!” And then we get, “They stole the 2020 election!”
Now we have more statistical information showing signs of manipulation, but because Republicans have called out their opponent as manipulating elections, researchers are afraid too report facts based on voting tabulation.
We are in crisis. The country is socially fractured. We’ve been manipulated by our enemy (Russian oligarchs/mob/Putin). They repeated the lies enough that MAGA will believe any dumb shit while Democrats look like they are using Republican insults or tactics.
Whether it was voter intimidation, voter suppression, gerrymandering, voter fraud, vote buying, or outright manipulation of the tabulation machines there is no doubt it was. Of course you could say the same of just about every election minus the possible tabulation tampering.
Famously, the way out of fascism has not been through democratic means. Fascist dictators tend to rig the democratic process to the point where it is obviously no longer democratic. The US has been seeing this since the founding of the country (electoral college, gerrymandering, voter suppression, 3/5ths compromise, lack of any federal direct ballot initiatives, mass propaganda campaigns like the Red Scare, etc.), but has only accelerated as more time has gone on, but more extreme contemporary examples would be countries like Russia, North Korea, or China.
The US also has a two party state due to the first past the post voting system that only accelerates this process faster, as the two parties are both corporate parties, and no party represents the will of the workers/lower classes.
Capitalists and fascists alike will do anything and everything in their power to both maintain and expand their power. The only exceptions are when there are mass, well-organized protests/uprisings/boycotts, but the corporations/the state also controls the media and now also the majority of the Internets’ communication services when “Web 2.0” started replacing less centralized services, making mass organization much more difficult.
Organize en masse. Look at what Nepal was able to do. Also be sure to have a permenant solution to corruption that the majority can agree on. I prefer Prof. Richard Wolff’s ideas personally, and I think avoiding centralized power as much as possible is of great importance.
Also have a voting system that isn’t on Discord that is very hard to hack by experienced hackers. I think blockchain voting can work very well for this. I understand the word “blockchain” is associated with cryptocurrency, but that can be changed. The voting system must also be transparent. If using software, open source, cryptographically signed software is a must.
If there are three or four points/demands that can be focused on that are easy to remember, even better. Look at how Bernie was able to bring the idea of single payer healthcare to the masses. Maybe something like this:
All businesses must be owned by the workers and run democratically.
Hard wealth cap of $50 million, including unrealized gains, tied to inflation. Enough to comfortably retire, but not enoigh to buy political favors.
All basic necessities such as food, water, shelter, sewage, higher education, healthcare, internet, etc. provided to everyone free of charge paid for by taxes.
Universal basic income tied to inflation so that people who can’t or don’t want to work can still persue hobbies and produce art without worry about failure.
Don’t get me wrong: We are indeed fucked beyond repair.
However, we have a dying fascist autocratic president who is trying to achieve dictatorship. We don’t have a dictator quite yet. And chances are he’ll be dead before he achieves that goal.
We’ll just become a rightwing hellhole as Vance more competently consolidates power for capital than Trump could dream of. And then the Democrats will probably barely win the presidency but it wont matter because they probably wont have the Senate, they definitely wont have the courts, and maybe even not have a majority in the House with all the gerrymandering. Nothing will get done and we’ll rot and liberals and socialists will be at each other’s throats too much over Trump’s previous repeated victories to pull anything together to meaningfully fight back.
Even if 1 happened, the tilt in politics would ensure that 2 doesnt happen. Every time we get a step like 1, the right wing pivots to blaming democrats for any legitimate (and plenty of illegitimate) grievances. Which is obviously lapped up by the ignorant morons and hands power back to the republicans. Over and over again this happens. We get a Clinton, then comes a Bush. We get an Obama, then comes a Trump. We get a Biden, then comes another Trump. Its just the same cycle of braindead stupidity over and over again.
Even if Democrats sweep the midterms, or somehow by a miracle get back the presidency after that, then ultimately power will be handed back to the Republicans in the following terms. The time to prevent any of this was when Democrats had full control of the government over ten years ago. But hindsight is 20/20 I suppose, and decorum was the flavor of the day. I doubt anyone imagined that established political decorum would be thrown out the window to the extent that it has been
I am not advocating violence! Don’t forget labor stoppages and organized boycotts and blockading highways/rails/ports and mass demonstrations in the cities, things that require us to be active but don’t require mass violence. I’m not even against voting, but saying it’s our only hope means waiting to die if they rig or cancel the elections.
Besides, I can’t just run off as an individual and start the revolution by myself. Adventurism is bad. We need to be organized.
The only way out is;
That’s assuming that America is going to have free and fair elections (if at all) ever again.
I admit that that is a pretty big assumption, but I do have faith in the people.
It may be misplaced faith.
We already don’t have them.
What if 8 years of election fraud bullshit was the setup to poison the waters when they actually use the techniques?
This is Russian psyops 101: play/fund both sides so when both are revealed corrupt, the populace is too confused to know what’s real.
So republicans say, for years, “Your Russian election claim is a hoax!” And then we get, “They stole the 2020 election!”
Now we have more statistical information showing signs of manipulation, but because Republicans have called out their opponent as manipulating elections, researchers are afraid too report facts based on voting tabulation.
We are in crisis. The country is socially fractured. We’ve been manipulated by our enemy (Russian oligarchs/mob/Putin). They repeated the lies enough that MAGA will believe any dumb shit while Democrats look like they are using Republican insults or tactics.
We’ve all been duped.
I’m pretty certain the 2024 election was rigged.
Whether it was voter intimidation, voter suppression, gerrymandering, voter fraud, vote buying, or outright manipulation of the tabulation machines there is no doubt it was. Of course you could say the same of just about every election minus the possible tabulation tampering.
Idk why you would when they’ve failed so often for so long in that country.
Famously, the way out of fascism has not been through democratic means. Fascist dictators tend to rig the democratic process to the point where it is obviously no longer democratic. The US has been seeing this since the founding of the country (electoral college, gerrymandering, voter suppression, 3/5ths compromise, lack of any federal direct ballot initiatives, mass propaganda campaigns like the Red Scare, etc.), but has only accelerated as more time has gone on, but more extreme contemporary examples would be countries like Russia, North Korea, or China.
The US also has a two party state due to the first past the post voting system that only accelerates this process faster, as the two parties are both corporate parties, and no party represents the will of the workers/lower classes.
Capitalists and fascists alike will do anything and everything in their power to both maintain and expand their power. The only exceptions are when there are mass, well-organized protests/uprisings/boycotts, but the corporations/the state also controls the media and now also the majority of the Internets’ communication services when “Web 2.0” started replacing less centralized services, making mass organization much more difficult.
This is interesting. Do you know how to get out of the corpo fascist death spiral?
Organize en masse. Look at what Nepal was able to do. Also be sure to have a permenant solution to corruption that the majority can agree on. I prefer Prof. Richard Wolff’s ideas personally, and I think avoiding centralized power as much as possible is of great importance.
Also have a voting system that isn’t on Discord that is very hard to hack by experienced hackers. I think blockchain voting can work very well for this. I understand the word “blockchain” is associated with cryptocurrency, but that can be changed. The voting system must also be transparent. If using software, open source, cryptographically signed software is a must.
If there are three or four points/demands that can be focused on that are easy to remember, even better. Look at how Bernie was able to bring the idea of single payer healthcare to the masses. Maybe something like this:
All businesses must be owned by the workers and run democratically.
Hard wealth cap of $50 million, including unrealized gains, tied to inflation. Enough to comfortably retire, but not enoigh to buy political favors.
All basic necessities such as food, water, shelter, sewage, higher education, healthcare, internet, etc. provided to everyone free of charge paid for by taxes.
Universal basic income tied to inflation so that people who can’t or don’t want to work can still persue hobbies and produce art without worry about failure.
Don’t get me wrong: We are indeed fucked beyond repair.
However, we have a dying fascist autocratic president who is trying to achieve dictatorship. We don’t have a dictator quite yet. And chances are he’ll be dead before he achieves that goal.
We’ll just become a rightwing hellhole as Vance more competently consolidates power for capital than Trump could dream of. And then the Democrats will probably barely win the presidency but it wont matter because they probably wont have the Senate, they definitely wont have the courts, and maybe even not have a majority in the House with all the gerrymandering. Nothing will get done and we’ll rot and liberals and socialists will be at each other’s throats too much over Trump’s previous repeated victories to pull anything together to meaningfully fight back.
Fiction writing is an art.
It’s definitely not going to be that easy
And even if it were, we definitely aren’t going to get all those things.
The ratchet effect will ensure #3-5 never happen. I think we need to forget about #1-2 and go for #3 first and start treating 1/4 and 2/5 as the same.
Even if 1 happened, the tilt in politics would ensure that 2 doesnt happen. Every time we get a step like 1, the right wing pivots to blaming democrats for any legitimate (and plenty of illegitimate) grievances. Which is obviously lapped up by the ignorant morons and hands power back to the republicans. Over and over again this happens. We get a Clinton, then comes a Bush. We get an Obama, then comes a Trump. We get a Biden, then comes another Trump. Its just the same cycle of braindead stupidity over and over again.
Even if Democrats sweep the midterms, or somehow by a miracle get back the presidency after that, then ultimately power will be handed back to the Republicans in the following terms. The time to prevent any of this was when Democrats had full control of the government over ten years ago. But hindsight is 20/20 I suppose, and decorum was the flavor of the day. I doubt anyone imagined that established political decorum would be thrown out the window to the extent that it has been
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I mean i haven’t seen you start the armed insurrection yet
I am not advocating violence! Don’t forget labor stoppages and organized boycotts and blockading highways/rails/ports and mass demonstrations in the cities, things that require us to be active but don’t require mass violence. I’m not even against voting, but saying it’s our only hope means waiting to die if they rig or cancel the elections.
Besides, I can’t just run off as an individual and start the revolution by myself. Adventurism is bad. We need to be organized.