IASIP is honestly incredible for the trans rep it has though, especially for 20 years ago. It shows Carmen living a happy and fulfilling life as an absolutely gorgeous woman, contrasted against the Gang being miserable and shitty, it’s basically some of the best rep in a sitcom IMO. As is the case with IASIP, the joke isn’t at the expense of the minority, but at the Gang for being pieces of shit. They’re not telling you to laugh with them when they’re like “Omg woman with a penis!”, you’re laughing at them for how incredibly shitty they’re being to this person. I find Lily Simpson’s breakdown pretty great.
It’s so over the top and everyone in it was such a cartoonish piece of shit I couldn’t really handle watching it as a series. Everyone just annoyed me way too much. All Gas No Brakes for that works for some, just not so much me; hard when there’s zero redeeming qualities for characters.
This reminds me of the regular problem with these kind of comedies, that has been analyzed to death by essays on the internet. Shitty people have no self awareness or media literacy. So they don’t notice when the show is making fun of them, and usually misinterpret the jokes as support for their shit POV. People who identify with George Constanta of Seinfeld, or bojack horseman, etc. They don’t realize that the show is calling them out. They are not heroes, they’re the butt of the joke.
Ive heard that argument before and, ok sure i can see its validity - she’s gorgeous! But as soon as they started misgendering her i was like nope im out.
I recently encountered it in 90210, IASIP, and countless movies (ace ventura 🤮)
No wonder trans people have it so shit. People grew up with this nonsense.
IASIP is honestly incredible for the trans rep it has though, especially for 20 years ago. It shows Carmen living a happy and fulfilling life as an absolutely gorgeous woman, contrasted against the Gang being miserable and shitty, it’s basically some of the best rep in a sitcom IMO. As is the case with IASIP, the joke isn’t at the expense of the minority, but at the Gang for being pieces of shit. They’re not telling you to laugh with them when they’re like “Omg woman with a penis!”, you’re laughing at them for how incredibly shitty they’re being to this person. I find Lily Simpson’s breakdown pretty great.
Always Sunny goes out of their way to play really shitty human beings. And then flip the script so they’re always seen as shitty human beings.
Anyone who thinks the Gang is behavior you should emulate is really missing the point.
It’s so over the top and everyone in it was such a cartoonish piece of shit I couldn’t really handle watching it as a series. Everyone just annoyed me way too much. All Gas No Brakes for that works for some, just not so much me; hard when there’s zero redeeming qualities for characters.
This reminds me of the regular problem with these kind of comedies, that has been analyzed to death by essays on the internet. Shitty people have no self awareness or media literacy. So they don’t notice when the show is making fun of them, and usually misinterpret the jokes as support for their shit POV. People who identify with George Constanta of Seinfeld, or bojack horseman, etc. They don’t realize that the show is calling them out. They are not heroes, they’re the butt of the joke.
There’s people who think Bojack is aspirational?
Ive heard that argument before and, ok sure i can see its validity - she’s gorgeous! But as soon as they started misgendering her i was like nope im out.
The Sunny episode isn’t really anti-trans though
“Is that a hate crime? I think that’s a hate crime”
There’s reasons the second Ace Ventura movie is more well liked.