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        Trump is a result of American culture, not driving it.

        Trump is a representative of America, not an outsider.

        Trump happened again secondary to the diseases of hate and greed, not in advance of.

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          To further expound: In a healthy political ecosystem, Trump would not be able to get anywhere near any political office. He would have been immediately voted down as the cruel joke that he is. It’s only because America is so evil and toxic that he was elected twice.

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          “the diseases of hate and greed” - is found elsewhere too. Which is why Fascism is also on the rise in Europe and elsewhere.

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      yeah, that’s why you have christians hellbent on increasing the suffering in the world sothat christ comes back faster

      and “suffering builds character” and such

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      I’ve been trying to convince my wife to leave since 2016. I’m 99% sure the main reason she won’t agree is because she will burst into flames if she ever admits to being wrong about anything.

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      It is to me. That means the popularity came back after the Bush years and after Trump’s first term. It’ll come back after 2028 too because people have the memory of goldfish.

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      Probably only hardcore MAGA. Actually probably not them because they wouldn’t believe an MSM article that claimed Trump was hurting the image of the USA, even if they could read

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        They probably believe it but think it’s because Trump is playing hardball and making them pay their fair share and that’s why they’re mad.

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    nowhere more than in the us. Ugh these flag wavers. If you want pride in the country the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!

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      I think a lot about something I read years ago. It said something like, “Some people love their country the way a child loves a parent. The parent is the smartest and the best and perfect. Some people love their country the way an adult loves a peer. They see the strengths, the potential, but also the weaknesses and problems that need to be addressed.”

      Conservatives are generally children. Driven largely by emotion with a very simple moral framework. Much like you will likely struggle to explain to a toddler that taking the other kid’s toys, screaming constantly, and shitting in the sandbox won’t make a lot of friends, explaining politics to a conservative is likely to be an ordeal. They don’t care. They have feelings and that is their reality.

      It’s also kind of funny how conservatives are the ones who typically say “reality doesn’t care about your feelings”. Everything is projection.

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        The qons are very much into performative bullshit that they think is patriotism. They’ll cry about how someone kneeling while a song plays and a piece of cloth is displayed at a sportsball game hurts “the troops”.

        Then they’ll proudly vote for a party that treats the men and women of the military like a used Kleenex, and embrace a figure like Taco who called them suckers and losers.

        They’ll blather about free speech, then cry about Hollywood airing shows they don’t like. They’ll talk about liberty and The Constitution, but want xtianity to be put on a pedestal.

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        Man over the years that projection thing just gets more and more. Which is just crazy when they spend most of their time accusing their opponents of things we eventually find out they are actively doing at the time.

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      I’ve always said I’m happy to have been born where I am and I feel privileged, not pride, for that. Unfortunately I’ve been feeling less and less privileged recently.

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    But Taco said we were hot, and we weren’t hot when Biden was in office, because “worst president evar” or somesuch.

    I have to trust dear leader and not any kind of real data, just like I believe him when he says we had the worst economy ever under Biden, in spite of all the evidence.