• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    24 天前

    Good opportunity for Walz to say, “fuck no I don’t want to talk to the guy whose rhetoric instigated this.”

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    24 天前

    Listen, I’m a piece of shit criminal with credible evidence of sexually assaulting 28 women. Why would you expect me to act like a decent human being?

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        Funny how there’s almost never a good guy with a gun, like statistically almost never. There was that cowboy that shot an active shooter in a church, and I’ll give props to the guy the ran into Uvalde when the uniformed bad guys were too chicken shit to save kids lives, and just hung outside. I can’t think of any off the top of my head, although I know they exist, but I could prattle off at least a dozen high profile shootings.

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          There was one just this weekend. A guy with a rifle popped up at a Utah No Kings rally. Two people who were on hand to protect the protesters stopped what would have almost certainly been a mass casualty event.

          Sadly, an innocent bystander was killed by the defenders. And that is the real issue. Guns are extremely dangerous even when used properly. Even good guys with a gun are not perfect and innocent people are often injured or killed on accident. We have too many guns in this country and not enough regulation and enforcement.

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            23 天前

            Even in this case, it wasn’t the random “good guy with a gun”. It was a member of the peacekeeping group setup by the event organizers. IE, it was their job.

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          Usually the good guys with guns are militia or are shot by the cops. A damned fine example I know of happened after WW2 where when a bunch of men got back to their home county they basically had to form a militia to expel the corrupt sheriff who was doing shit like ballot stuffing. Spoiler the sheriff and his mafia goons didn’t stand a chance against men who just got done fighting the Imperial Japanese and Nazi Germany.

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          Last stat I saw was 1in 7000, but that includes cases with collateral damage.

          So, for America, that’s like once a year.

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          This is sooo false it’s not even funny. There are way more DGUs than there are not.

          And like it or not most mass shootings are stopped by someone with a firearm.

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            There are way more DGUs than there are not.

            I think this is a pretty gigantic citation needed here. I couldn’t find anything supporting this assertion but plenty of material showing the opposite.

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              Before the CDC took it off the site, they had reference to an estimated 500-2.5mil DGUs a year. DGUs are hard to estimate because a dgu can be as simple as presenting the firearm to a would be attacker and the attacker leaving the victim(s) alone. Most people don’t call the police because of this.

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            DGU. I didn’t know they invented an initialism at the rallies.

            most mass shootings are stopped by

            …the perp taking his own life.

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    Why does Trump need to call Walz? It’s obvious they’re not going to be on the same page about this or cooperate. The call would just be a waste of both their time.