It’s funny that these tech bros don’t understand that 90% of the show is not condemning technology, but how capitalism corrupts technology.
It’s called Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism, you wouldn’t like it anyway.
I reverse Automated and Luxury. That way the acronym reads FLAGS-C
That is a better acronym, but you can’t change word places willy nilly.
https://quillbot.com/blog/adjectives/order-of-adjectives/
If you did, you’d end up calling “Coordinated Universal Time” something like UTC, despite UTC standing for nothing actually, and being a compromise.
You can have sci-fi that showcases cool technology and how it relates to society. We’ve done it before, and it’s some of the most popular and influential sci-fi ever created. It’s called Star Trek (communicators, transporters, medical scanners, replicators, holodecks, etc). But even utopian sci-fi like Star Trek is mainly centered around conflict, what it means to be human, and other philosophical and existential questions. A show that’s only about how cool the tech is, really isn’t a show at all. It’s an advertisement.
Gadget Man is probably one of the closest
Is that like the Wish/Temu version of Inspector Gadget?
It’s a show hosted by Richard Ayoade about different “modern” tech gadgets (“modern” because it came out a decade ago).
I think he is referring to this.
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The QAA podcast recently had an episode on AI generated images and right wing movements and they said something that really stuck with me- AI “art” is so popular among right wingers and barely literate tech bros because it is truly art the way they see all art, images with only surface level literal meaning and no subtext, context, or anything actually thought provoking. The dumbest thing about this is that there are several Black Mirror episodes that are ultimately hopeful or value-neutral about the effects of technology on the future- San Bernardino and Striking Vipers come to mind. Then again, both of those are about how sexuality intersects with transhumanism, which right wingers generally see as bad things so maybe they see those as dystopian episodes as well.
I believe a similar argument is brought up in Some More News about AI.
Why don’t people make movies about how cool war is? You get access to all kinds of useful natural resources and get to ki… I mean not look at brown people anymore!
Starship troopers is cool
Its also a satire of war and fascism, or maybe thats what you meant
We have the “white mirror” thing. It’s called Star Trek.
They don’t want the socialism part though. They still want to be rich.
Well then they can have The Culture instead. Every citizen of the Culture has a big house, and gets to spend all day going to parties and doing extreme sports. Every citizen is as well off as a real world billionaire.
Because they’re anarchists.
That requires giving control of society over to AI though. I’m not sure we’re there yet
The Minds don’t control society. One guy decided that Masaq’ Orbital’s badlands should be covered in pylons with a gondola network to travel between them using wind power. So he convinced a bunch of people to work with him, and they made it happen. Even though Masaq’ Hub doesn’t like the pylons.
The Culture doesn’t control its citizens. They can do whatever they want. The Minds just help out.
Huh, I thought it was made pretty clear that the power distribution in society is such that the minds run the whole show and more or less keep the humans around as pets out of good will.
Kinda like if your dog wants to go for a walk, you can take it, but that doesn’t mean the dog is in charge
The Minds don’t use fences or leashes. The Minds have more power, sure. They look after the factories and keep the trains running. But power doesn’t mean control in a society without coercion. The Culture doesn’t have laws.
The socialism part
No shared leadership, no competent women, no non-white people then?
Edit: those are the good parts about Star Trek as a show back then when it first aired and are still good.
It’s difficult to be wrong three times in a row when talking about a very broad subject but you managed to do it anyway
somehow you missed the dripping sarcasm. he’s pointing out the things that conservatives would be mad about and label as socialism.
I have nothing against Star Trek and lots of grievances against tech bros. I’m sorry if my phrasing suggested differently.
Are you OK ?
Need to see the episode of star trek now where populism destroys the federation from the inside.
“populism” happens because living conditions decline and the powers that be are unwilling or unable to address it. Why would that happen in a space-faring civilization with replicators?
It’s called Star Trek.
Yes of course. But these are geniuses at work arguing about incredibly stupid things so best leave them to it.
White mirror looks scarier.
Looks like an ad too
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meta tech distopia
Every silver cloud has a dark underside.
So basically Star-Trek ? You know what would be funny ? If leftists hijacked "White Mirror"😉
Nah, too LEFTY. We gotta make a show extolling the value of bringing automation to society.
You know, like Battlestar Galactica!!!
White mirror sounds like the best episode of a black mirror season
Black mirror is the optimistic version in our timeline.
More realisticly the largest and smartest animals left on earth at the end of this century will be the jellyfish that have taken over our acidified oceans
What Mark here wants, essentially, is an infomercial TV series.
In addition, it’s difficult to comprehend someone this ignorant of the scifi genre as a whole. It’s likely difficult for young people today to comprehend it, but we had almost no TV and movies in the genre back in the day. This current explosion of options is just that: current. Star Trek and Star Wars were unique, which is likely why they stood out.
Tech gone bad and AI run amuck are major themes even at Star Treks inception.
I feel bad for Mark, in some ways, since he’s likely never read a science fiction novel.
He’s not ignorant. He’s completely aware that cautionary tales about anything prime people to be more critical of related products.
He wants people to be more stupid so they buy more stuff (from him), not be less stupid and buying less stuff.
R.U.R. added its somber view to that of the even more famous Frankenstein, in which the creation of another kind of artificial human being also ended in disaster, though on a more limited scale. Following these examples, it became very common, in the 1920s and 1930s, to picture robots as dangerous devices that invariably destroyed their creators. The moral was pointed out over and over again that “there are some things Man was not meant to know.”
- Isaac Asimov, The Caves of Steel, introduction
I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out (I’m sure they have) but fundamentally I think it’s related to the cultural impact of the Garden of Eden story. God creates Man in His own image, and Man comes up short and disobeys God. Man creates Robot in his own image, and Robot surpasses man and disobeys him, completing the cultural cycle. Both stories are about human nature being flawed, with robot stories being about how the flawed human nature leads us to want to “become God” by creating life on our own, becoming our own Demiurge, creating a shadow of a shadow of the “Divine Image” which represents goodness and morality.
Sky Mall would really get him going
what if we made a show that made it easier for tech bros to exploit tech to make more money? sounds super cool
It’s called Star Trek.
