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Summary
Elon Musk privately pressured Reddit CEO Steve Huffman to address content moderation after publicly criticizing Reddit on X for banning links and allegedly hosting violent content.
Shortly after Musk’s messages, Reddit imposed a 72-hour ban on the “WhitePeopleTwitter” subreddit, citing violent content, and deleted a thread Musk highlighted.
Reddit denies external influence but acknowledges evaluating reports seriously.
The controversy stirred discussions among Reddit moderators, some mocking Musk as a “giant baby.” Musk has not commented on the situation.
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Wasn’t Elon Musk the self-proclaimed “free speech absolutist”? Turns out it was the “free speech abolitionist” after all.
The extreme right wing in the US, has always had things they claim to revere, but don’t actually believe in.
- Free Speech
- Free Markets
- Democracy
- The Constitution
Probably more
- families
- children’s safety
- voting rights
- the economy
- the well-being of working class people
- peace
- morality
- women’s safety
- corruption
- technology
- infrastructure
- religion, in that it is only a tool to further their ends and they will interpret religious scripture at their own discretion and opinion
- education
- healthcare
There’s only two things they do care about, capital and power. They are white supremacists and Christian nationalists second, capitalists and oligarchs first.
It’s about power. They can lie and get away with it, they can break rules and get away with it.
Everything they do should be viewed through the lens of power relations and control through power. They will say whatever is worthwhile for them to say to gain more power. That’s it, that’s all, that’s all it’s ever been. Calling them hypocrites does nothing, they love that we get mad about it. Because it means they have power over us.
To quote a rando from (retch) reddit:
There’s a russian adage about people dumbfounded by how people will baldfaced lie obvious falsehoods: They don’t lie to deceive you, they lie to INSULT you: it’s a statement “I can insult you this way and you can’t do anything about it”
They call themselves conservatives, but they’re radicals (the polar opposite) through and through.
Pro-“life” (actually just pro-“birth”)
Pro forced birth.
It means Elon gets free speech, not any of us. Elon is free to threaten a Judges daughter with no ramifications.
Apparently free speech absolutist means “absolutely no free speech” according to fElon.
Technically true /s
Anyone who says they are a “free speech absolutist” is a liar or a fool.
its the same people whoa re anti-woke, they are the wokest people out there.
It still blows my mind that he has this reputation. His OWN damn policy was and still is “Freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.” Which is blatantly censorship and suppression lol. I cannot grasp how someone could see that and be like “free speech is back!!!”
Elon is a pussy afraid of words like the rest of the Maga crowd.
This is what brought me to lemmy after getting threatened to be banned for up voting anti trump and musk post. Fuck trump, fuck musk and fuck spez. Fucking goofs.
This is what brought me to lemmy
Samsies. Reddit is bending the knee to big money
Yeah I refuse to support nazi supporters. Spez has done some dumb shit over the years but this was the final straw. I’ve only been here about a week but it already seems like a much better environment.
Same, I started looking for alternatives after getting threatened for upvoting. What actually pushed me to join here though was getting a three day ban. Both times they falsely claimed it was for “violent content”. Apparently wrongthink is violence.
Welcome! Lemmy is a breath of fresh air. 💕
Thanks, I’ve really been enjoying it. I was on redd it for about 12 years and it won’t be missed.
14 years invested at Reddit and the latest bans and bs moderation was the last straw for me. Spent a whole day hand deleting all of my comments and posts and subsequently my account. Fuck Spez. Asskisser and right wing sympathetic.
That’s a long time, but we can’t stop someone else from being a spineless fuck so best to move on. With enough of us leaving hopefully they’ll start to feel it.
im glad at least the 10years ive been using ublock origin denying them ads at least.
they probably do it with anti-israeli posts too, right now its an all time high. and the noise of anti-dem/biden posts suddenly disappeared over the gaza conflict.
So Mr Free Speech just forced a 3rd party to restrict free speech like he does on his free speech platform. Fucking hypocrite.
AND here’s proof /u/spez is a fucking pussy.
Fuck spez. Reddit is bullshit now because of that garbage person.
TBH, it’s been bullshit for years.
Free speech = using slurs and peddling conspiracy theories
And that’s how I finally made an account here
Welcome! I came over during the api shutdown, I mained lemmy for a year, waffled back and forth the last few months. Reddit is such garbage, I dont even recognize it anymore. Its just those few niche subs that got me back but its not worth it.
Same but I swapped instances recently to have access to the piracy community.
same here.
Me, too. Welcome! I love the Fediverse. 💕
Musk is, in fact, a giant baby.
Reddit, or at least the subs I frequented, is a cesspool of russian trolls and bots. I made the apparent mistake of calling a couple of trolls out in the r/Europe sub and asked why they weren’t in Kursk, and pffft…permanent ban from all of reddit for “inciting violence”. I think my blood pressure has improved since then, tbh.
That sounds like the_donald applied to the whole site.
I never actually visited that sub, but I heard it alluded to enough to loathe it…
It was legitimately funny, when it was still a joke. The memes were good. There was no way that idiot was going to be a serious contender. It was all in good fun.
At least until someone would say, “you know this is just a joke, right?” Any kind of self-awareness was banned within seconds. Now I don’t know if you’re familiar with volunteer moderators, but it’s pretty rare that they catch that kind of volume 24 hours a day within seconds.
I fully believe there were state-level troll farms operated by a hostile foreign government moderating that subreddit.
… and now they’re applying that to the entire site.
I know the UK sub took a hard right turn shortly before the election and it was almost an overnight change
Honestly, I don’t think Lemmy, or any other anonymous social media can really counter this. Outside of heavy moderation in the opposite direction, anyway, which doesn’t feel great.
It’s just too easy for hostile governments to spin up as many dozens of accounts as they need to argue against you, argue on your side (but badly), and simply just drown you out. It doesn’t take much of that for real people to retreat. Why would you post an opinion that you know is going to immediately get shit on by a dozen “people”?
hostile govt, mainly russ can steal or just make hundreds of acct at a time, they also easily evade reddit bans to spam.
west coast subs also got astroturfed by the right, the way they act is a goody two shoes type of comments.
City and state subs tend to be really bad, I guess because if you’re looking to influence people it’s an obvious place to start. I swore off my city subreddit after a barrage of “this is it, I’m done with the Democrats” after the local George Floyd riots knocked over some statues that were about equality. It was probably astroturfing but beyond frustrating either way.
my west coast one got turned into a conservative subs. when people were asking about things like jury duty and fare evasion/traffic tickets, they all act lik oh you shouldnt done this or that, you should know better.
Russian trolls do take over subs, even buying them if they can’t trick their way in. Its been going on for years, but they used to target the most relevant for their misinformation. They probably widened their goals to any popular subs by now.
conservatives subs being the obvious one. WOrldnews is co-opted by israeli trolls mostly. i see them leak into pics alot so i just report them. r/politics is half and half.
That would not surprise me in the slightest. Drumph had a lot of help, starting with those fucking “actors” who cheered him as he descended the golden elevator. He certainly didn’t get there based on merit LOL.
MSM, SOCIAL media practically made him on the news 24/7 for the last, the only time people had clarity from his madness was when mr luigi shot the CEO, and the MSMs and social media was freaking out that the class war is finally gaining attention against them, then they reorientated themselves and the masses were re-distracted again.
Good thing there are no Russian bots on Lemmy.
Not sure about bots, but I’ve certainly encountered some trolls. And some people grafted to Elmo’s starfish. At least they aren’t a protected species here…
The Russian troll I used to bully here had disappeared and it looks like mods deleted all his comments. I left a 🌻 for him on my last comment to him. Felt quite poignant, I hope he hadn’t fallen out of a window.
…or into a pink mist wafting gently in the morning breeze…
they seem to invade the political communities more.
i think 2 years ago, someone posted that half reddit comments were subs, politics and news probably is made a large percentage of trolls. alot of people were/including me were criticizing some of news/article sources as being from pure russian backed sources.
I mean…fuck both of em.
Ew. No, thanks.
Well, tie them up like Butch and Marcellus Wallace and call Zed. I’ll get the gimp.
Well well well
Spez has always been a alt-right coward.
I am not convinced that the image I recently saw of an extraordinarily strangely shaped human actually WAS Spez, but if it is, he needs to get some plastic surgery so he doesn’t frighten children.
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And that’s why I’m no longer on Reddit.
Me too, brother
Ditto
It’s shameful. Reddit is a shell of its former self.
Banning 3rd party apps was the tipping point for me. Their official app is shit.
Same, never been back
Reddit opens YouTube links in an internal browser where it can’t see you’re already logged in. Been like that for YEARS.
other forums did that to, like y’a answers, before it was shutdown.
I use to go around talking shit on reddit. Not trolling, just being completely blunt to stupid people. I found myself doing this more and more. It wasn’t until they banned me that I realized… it’s not me. The people on reddit are getting more and more dumb and annoying every day because reddit is going down. A lot of good people left with the API change and more are leaving now. Reddit is dead. Time for Lemmy.
Some of my favorite subs would have a total meltdown, like end of the world shit, because it closed for 24 hours. Then when the app bans happened, there were the blackouts and once again, people were angry at the audacity of the mods not being submissive.
They want their content above literally anything else. Take it away for a moment and their entire world collapses. And when you see the all consuming, brain-dead, content they were viewing, AND THE IMPORTANCE THEY PUT ON IT, it’s no wonder why they have the reputation they do. That was very sobering.
thier too addicted to certain subs, the main ones are politics, news(adjacent subs of these 2), entertainment, and sports. every other subs is neglible impact.
The two worst reactions that I saw were gaming and NFL. You’re right that most of the subs were fine. It’s the big ones that were addictive to a point I didn’t realize until something happened.
same thing here, i was reminding that thier info was outdated, and other stuff,and i started reporting more, then that also increased and i was getting banned around the same time.
You’re a decade late on that
Imagine being literally the richest man on earth and using your influence to delete mean comments that people wrote about you on the internet.
It’s not about money, it’s about power and control.
Job security for the rest of his life.
Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause
chicksbros dig dudes with money.Yeah. Instead of like, you know, maybe…improving his behaviour…
Fuck you spez!
US Tech need to start relocating. I emailed Warp Shell creators advising I’d reluctantly cancelled my subscription to their actually excellent product; because funding the US economy had become ‘morally incompatible with my workflow’. Hope others can do similar.
Why would they, most of US tech is in on the dystopian dream
A lot of US companies have been happy to relocate to Ireland and enjoy the tax breaks. No reason not to continue, I’d say.
Of course he did. Come on over people! Haven’t gone on Reddit since I got lemmy.
Reddit is dead!
Has been for a long time.
