• LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.

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      what was the republican defense on this one? i dont remeber. wasnt it just like a stab back like “hunters laptop though!”

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        Hunter’s laptop, Hillary’s emails again, but it was mostly that Biden had some documents, too. Trump shouted that all presidents do this, and that what Biden had was worse, and his followers believed that without looking into any context (like all Biden had was some memos, copies of personal notes, etc, and that Biden immediately turned everything over and invited the feds to his home to look for more).

        The scale was nowhere near the same, Biden hadn’t intentionally removed classified documents or tried to keep them from the feds, but none of that mattered. Trump saying he was entitled to the documents because everyone else did it was enough for his followers.

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      I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

      And this guy is actually the president. Fuck America. How could this happen.

      I fucking had less boxes when I moved into my new apartment lmfao.

      The printer is a nice little touch. Love the black accent between all these white boxes.

      I mean this honestly: You would tell me if this was fake, right? This is actually real?

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          The question isn’t quite as funny as you think. I am German and didn’t actually expect the USA and their „president“ to be an actual meme.

          Like… this stuff is an actual joke. But it’s your own fault in America.

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            Just do your best to keep your country from joining us. The AfD sure seems to be gaining speed like our tea party did.

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              Yeah, it’s a serious issue. Our normal parties need to address urgent issues in order to get the protest voters back from the AfD. I’m convinced that 20% of our population are not nazis. They’re just stupid and angry because they don’t feel heard.

              Sure there are Nazis. But it’s not 20%. I hope.

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                They’re just stupid and angry because they don’t feel heard.

                My dude, that was the genesis of the first Nazi party. Nazis weren’t monsters that crawled out of some portal to Hell, they were people.

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                  You’re missing my point or maybe I didn’t make my point very clear. I personally know people who voted the AfD. They are not nazis. Are they dumb in this regard? Yes. But they don’t hate minorities. They hate the lethargic SPD, CDU, etc.

                  No party has a serious plan to tackle the immigration issue. And it is an issue. There’s no denying this. The AfD is the only party that openly complains about the immigration. Unfortunately their plans are horrible. So we need the normal parties to do normal things to tackle immigration normally, not like Hitler.

                  That’s where they are stupid. They vote for the AfD because it’s the only vocal party about it. They fail to see that the AfD would just lock the immigrants up or round them up at the border. They’re ignorant and stupid. But they aren’t nazis.

                  Again. Some certainly are. All I’m saying is that not ALL of their voters are nazis. They’re angry and misguided.

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        I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

        It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.

        The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times

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        Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences.
        https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo

        He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)

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        The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.

        Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.

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          I agree with you. Everyone who voted for this, or even worse, didn’t vote at all, deserves to get their healthcare, job security and retirement destroyed. And I will laugh at them when they start crying. What a bunch of worthless idiots.

          Is this mean? If so I’m not sorry.

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            I don’t agree that they should lose their human rights. Dehumanization is a step too far for me.

            I believe there is some level of healthcare that is a human right.

            I don’t think “job security” or “retirement” is a human right, though I think we might be in a post-scarcity world (where anyone can “retire” if they wish) and we just aren’t acting like it.

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              You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be? Like “congrats on working but you didn’t make enough and no I don’t care why so I guess you’ll be working until you die granny!” You can’t bust in here like claiming a higher level of morality and then saying “let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare a little I mean let’s not go *crazy amirite?”

              Anyway, these people voted for everyone not like them to lose their human rights, down to not allowing them to exist while queer or be born in the country to immigrant parents. And so when they lose them too, yea it’s pretty funny. They are getting what they asked for, including the cruelty they cheered on and/or brushed aside, and are crying about it because they aren’t the big strong tough guys they fantasize about being.

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                You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be?

                In a post-scarcity society, no one should have to work. But, if there is scarcity, I don’t believe those with less-working-time should (important EDIT) NOT be forced to provide for those with more-working-time.

                I do think government-organized retirement is a good thing, but I don’t feel it is a human right.

                let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare

                I didn’t say that. I think healthcare in the U.S. is woeful, and hardly anything that is a human right is provided as a right. And, we should massively expand the availability of healthcare.

                I did imply there are some medical procedures that I don’t believe are human rights. Depending on who I’m talking to, we might even disagree whether a procedure is medical or not. Some people swear by their chiropractors or essential oil treatments.

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              I would agree. But I don’t actually. If you vote against basic human rights, or are too lazy to vote for them, then get fucked honestly. That’s how I feel.

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          I am not American and wasn’t as invested as the rest of you (Americans). Mystery solved. I knew that he shared classified material and that was it.

          Did you read about the last Bundestag debate? It was like a huge deal.

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          As an American, I can tell you this is my first time seeing this… and I actively seek out information. Just joined lemm.ee and it’s already paying off.

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        Sadly, it is real.

        e: and in case anyone reading this doesn’t get the implication, notice where the only power outlet in this room is (the white cable leading across the ceiling and along the piping to the office printer, which is the whitish thing at the right of this photo).

        It’s basically the only thing besides boxes of documents in this storage room. It was plugged in and being used, not stored. This is so much worse than the toilet photo, yet everyone I show this to hasn’t seen it.

        e2: Oh, and don’t forget, this was the ‘holdout’ room, to which maintenance supposedly ‘lost’ the key the first couple of times the feds showed up, then right when they got their ‘no, really’ warrant, it was supposedly flooded by a faulty pool pump. That’s this room. Fuck, in all the insanity, I’d forgot that last bit.

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            This was in Florida so actually yes.

            Also, the boxes are still there. After the case was dismissed when he got reelected, they returned everything.

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              Ahhhh… I see Trump and just assume it’s lies, but fair enough if floods happen there. And that’s depressing.