cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23396300
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nickyflowers posts:
it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to
nickyflowers replies:
oh im sorry you’re a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
Until the community supported platform becomes an advertiser supported one. Remember they said this same exact thing when moving from Facebook to Reddit.
Running is not going to save the online community. People have been running for the last 30 years, and it led us to some of the darkest times we’ve seen in 100 years. Instead we need to fight back and strategically retreat. Change the incentive structure - make advertisers absolutely miserable, and those who leech from advertisers should be similarly flogged.
Normalize supporting software and sites through donations rather than ads.
If your community dies since nobody supports it, it was shit anyway.
We agree here, but this will not necessarily stop the rot. Companies will just approach these communities and offer the leaders massive buyouts, and then flood it with ads (see Twitch).
Communities themselves need mechanisms to punish or vandalize advertisements.
Wot
First of all, who moved from Facebook to Reddit?
Second of all, both of those platforms are literally the same. Corporate owned garbage. They didn’t move anywhere. When people say move, they mean to decentralized activitypub software which can’t be corporate controlled.
People moved from Facebook to Reddit in the past because it was seen as the more community-centric platform.
This has taken a wild shift over the last 5 years; no one who moved over was hoping for Reddit becoming an ad-centric platform.
Decentralization is not a silver bullet. If lemmy.world hits 1 million users, and then a large corporation buys it, lemmy will be set back 10 years. This is an incentive problem, and no amount of workarounds is going to fix it.