I was listening to an episode of Behind the Bastards about the slave labor used by Volkswagen in the 1970s and 1980s and this fact came up. Here’s the relevant Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Brazil
Excerpt:
Out of the 12 million Africans who were forcibly brought to the New World, approximately 5.5 million were brought to Brazil between 1540 and the 1860s.
The US likes to make itself be the biggest drama queen in the world when it comes to racism, the Brazil suffers much more with it to this day.
Having lived in both places, I can say Brazil clearly has racism, but it doesn’t come close to the near apartheid of the south of US. By a long shot.
Erm that absolutely does exist. Black Brazilians are killed by police at far higher rates, earn far less, and remain under-represented everywhere from universities to Congress. Calling that “not even close” just compares signage, not reality. The closest to the US south would the Nordeste. This area despite being made of several huge states, is more black, more poor, and mostly forgotten from public representation and support. Would you say the USA South is forgotten and poor?
Are you talking about racism existing? Because:
Moving on:
I would love to see how you arrived at that conclusion.
That has no relationship with racism at all. But to quench your curiosity, a resounding Yes.
I can’t even begin to describe to you the absolute palpable, day to day, quality that racism takes form in the south of US. Apartheid-lite really is a better describer, as it encompasses more than racism. I was so taken aback by the state of racial affairs, I don’t think anything could have prepared me for it. There’s just so much that never make it to the media, because media reports the extraordinary, and what’s most shocking is exactly what they consider ordinary. The ordinary racism is just mind-boggling.
I admit I haven’t had a lot of exposure to Brazil’s history.
Of course. Because the Hollywood propaganda engine runs really deep.
I’m not sure that’s fair. Hollywood isn’t the history channel, its job isn’t to educate the world and they certainly aren’t conspiring to suppress knowledge of the slave trade in Brazil. They just haven’t made many films that feature it.
edit: If you’re getting all your world knowledge from films, that’s a problem.
The History Channel isn’t a history channel!
That’s the first valid point in this thread!
All right, just to be clear, the propaganda coming out of Hollywood isn’t exactly slim or debated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–entertainment_complex
Have there been any hollywood films denying slavery in Brazil? Hollywood propaganda on other topics isn’t relevant here.
Today on the Missing The Fucking Point Channel:
The point is that hollywood isn’t making films that deny or refute slavery in Brazil, which was the original claim.
How the fuck do you know that? You said that you hadn’t seen them, I am pretty god damned sure that there are films that do exactly that and more.
The point is that Hollywood makes film that imply a lot of shit over a very broad spectrum, you can try and move the goal posts all you want, but there is zero refuting that Hollywood is a propaganda machine that will serve its masters the USAF and by extension its government, and whatever phalanx of industrial sycophants propping it up.
Get a grip.
Huh? Are you surprised that movies made in US are mostly about US? I am from Czech Republic and surprisingly, all our movies are about czech culture and none about Brazilian slave trade.
No. But holiwwod has spread to the whole world the American values. You don’t see that from other countries.
It isn’t Hollywood’s responsibility to teach people world history.
It’s to make money and spread propaganda. Which is what they said.
I didn’t say it was
“Did you know that Arabs were also slavers? They were much worse than us! Also America freed the slaves, and if you think about it, it was really the negroes that did it to themselves!”
Yes… So were the Greek and others. Europe didn’t start the slave trade, it already existed when Portugal started exploring the coast of Africa. Portugal just… Optimized the business.
If you’re like me, those quotes mean: This is something really stupid that other people say.
I’m not sure others are reading it that way.