• Corn@lemmy.ml
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    Its also a reaction to the Hope and Change candidate bailing out the banks who just stole millions of homes, bombed a dozen countries, sending the natl guard to shut down protests in furgison, both-sides a cop arresting a man in his own yard, deporting more people than W or Trump, giving us means-tested subsidies for health insurance.

    Obama disillusioned a generation with politics, hence why so many people stayed home in 2016. Biden did the same shit, and Newsom will do it again if given a chance.

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      Don’t forget the part when Obama created a joint federal/local/corporate-bank task force to illegally surveil the Occupy Wall Street protests, and the brutally crush them. Or decided not to prosecute the authors of the torture program in the Bush administration.

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      He inherited that quagmire of illegal wars, it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat. It was either drones or boots on the ground, not exactly a stellar choice to be left with, and he chose to minimize American lives lost. Most certainly not defending any of America’s vile military engagements but the picture is a little bit more nuanced than that.

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        it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat

        Lol fucking Trump withdrew us from Afghanistan at the drop of a hat (although he timed it so that that particular mess was Biden’s to clean up).

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      I guess people think our memories are really that bad that we’d believe shit like this… OK bud.

      Dude literally said “both sides” lol

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        I’m guessing Obama was before your politcal awakening. Is there anything specificly I said you don’t believe and want more information on?

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            We don’t blame the Democrats for the crime, we blame the Democrats for positioning themselves as the only ones who can stop the crime, and then just not doing it.

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              The whiplash when a dem wins president ad all the libs flip to “actually this this we all agreed was bad when <last republican> was doing it isn’t that bad and its really important we keep <funding ICE camps/bombing country/backing Israel/giving money to corporations/funding police attention the expense of literally everything>”

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            They lost to Donald fucking Trump, twice. Do you think Trump is a uniquely gifted politician? You have to have exceptional distain for your constituents if you can’t get them to come out when the alternative is the republicans.

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              I’m not a fan of the Democratic party, I just hate the obvious bullshit double standard that’s everywhere.

              The left just can’t not shoot itself in the foot. Always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Care more about bullshit purity tests than stopping the literal fascists from destroying our republic.

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                Our standards coincide with what a candidate needs to do to win. By pretending otherwise, you allow the DNC to maintain the delusion the can win without doing what their constituents want. This is basic politics. How thrilled would you be if the republican politicians behaved like the DNC and told their base “haha eat shit, what are you gonna do, vote Democrat?”