Yes, the world only realised 10 years ago that owning humans as property is evil. There wasn’t like, a civil war about it at the time or anything.
2015, that watershed moment in “slavery bad” political theory frameworks.
Evil? No. Utterly fooled by a traitorous pseudo-noble class into horde murder-suicide for a right they’d neither gain the capacity to use, nor find a means to exploit? Ye. Like most political decisions, the first step should have been to shove the bourgeoisie into a meat grinder.
What is the context? Why is the vice president talking about the confederacy at all?
Because simping for slavers is one of the Culture War issues American conservatives crave, bizarrely.
Yeah but what did the host ask? “Have u noticed Americans haven’t supported the confederacy lately???”
Here’s the link to the interview if you want more context.
Their whole platform is pissing off the libs. If they ran on fiscal policy alone they wouldn’t exist as a party.
Yeah but I’m dying to know the interview question that prompted this
Given how much Republicans love defending Nazi ideology, my guess is, “good morning, how are you doing today?”
Actual answer, they’re re-renaming military bases that had confederate general’s names removed from them. Ya know, the bases that were named that way during Jim Crow to intimidate black folk to stay away from the military? Yeah, they’re just so unsure why anyone wouldn’t want those bases named that. So they’re putting the confederate names back.
Ahaaa, that whole mess. Thanks. I clicked the link provided but couldn’t bring myself to sit through the hour to find it
Doesn’t he pretend to be from West Virginia? A place that only exists because it left the confederacy???
Conservatives only pretend to know history.
If they knew it then they would notice similarities between Zohran Mamdani winning dnc nomination of mayor in NY on a progressive campaign that scared all the elites that own the news, and Teddy Roosevelt winning mayor in NY on a progressive campaign and scaring all the elites that own the news.
I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse.
Ulysses S. Grant, possibly with some sweetening from one Samuel Clemens
I think that’s about as “fair” a reading as you’re likely to get from a white elite of the era, but along with the many, many pre-war speeches and declarations of secession, it makes it very clear that the US Civil War had to boil down to, “Am I willing to kill and die to preserve a society built, not just on slavery, but on a particularly brutal and rigid and racist version of it.”
We don’t know what every individual knew or felt, and lord knows the mores of northern whites at the time would be abhorrent to us, but there was, in their own white society, a public debate about the right course of action, and the South took literally the most evil option available to them. I feel very comfortable stating that every single decision maker in the Confederacy deserves to be publicly ignored (at best, and I’d prefer they be called the traitors they were), and that no Confederate involved in anything but resistance to the CSA or public reconciliation with the freed population deserves to be celebrated. They are a scar on the American soul and the fact that we as a country picked their memory over a proper Reconstruction is part of what’s so toxic in this country’s political discourse to this very day.
Equating “something happened” with “I realised”, perhaps?
That they have him do the interview on a couch is perfecto.
Did he tell the inspiring story about General Lee saying, “don’t fight uphill me boys!”
Someone please teach those idiots a few history lessons, stat!
