Looks like you called it. Seems the container image(s) default to a subscription plan (“Starter”, free for <50 users) but apparently you can revert to the “Community Edition” which gets rid of it.

Found this post over at the place we no longer speak of :

Hello, I’m Gabriel Engel, the founder of Rocket.Chat. I want to clarify that there is no new limitation for community use. We’ve recently introduced a plan offering all enterprise features for free to groups with fewer than 25 users. For those with more users, you have the opportunity to try the enterprise features. After the trial period, the system will automatically revert to the community version. However, you have the option to bypass the trial in the admin settings. I emphasize that we are not imposing any restrictions; instead, we’re providing the enterprise version free to small teams and inviting larger teams to experience it. Let’s view this as the positive initiative it is. For more details, please visit our forum: https://forums.rocket.chat/t/introducing-the-starter-plan-free-access-to-premium-features-for-limited-scale-use/18736

In the admin settings for your instance you can go to the “Subscription” panel and down at the veeeery bottom is a “Cancel Subscription” button (I’m on the free “starter” subscription, apparently). I’m assuming that’s how you back out of it.

Once I have a chance to warn users that I’m about to do something potentially dramatic, I’ll test it out and see what happens.

EDIT: Also found this in the RC forums (from 2 years ago) :

Note, if you upgrade or install new version of RC, it will automatically put you at a Starter or Pro plan, to go to the community, go to Admin settings, remove the key and it will put you back to the Community version… It took me a while to figure this out :slight_smile:

O, and the immediate next post is what I described above :

I believe community is still available within v6.6.0, but new instllation will put you automatically to the Starter Plan. You need to cancel subscription going to Setting → Subscription → Cancel Subscription

RocketChat is pretty easy to setup with docker. I couldn’t get it to work in podman after many, many hours of trying despite the documentation saying it does. They have a dedicated podman doc page but I just hit problem after problem after problem. I was trying to do it with the containerized mongo as a PoC though - a lot of problems came from that (mongo connection). Maybe I’ll try again with a “real” db server. Root cause seemed to be networking differences between docker and podman.

I found it really odd that your server has to get a registration key from their server… That part weirds me out.

O shit. What year is it?

I don’t know shit about that poster, but that’s a very english phrase.

Also, I’m not going to look into their post history. Partially because I’m lazy, partially just to spite you.

Xoxo

There are times when things need to be broken. But I also definitely understand your angle.

I can tell you to rest for, I dunno, $500?

(Jokes aside, that’s shitty and I’ve been there)

I appreciates that but unfortunately it is under a different identity and I don’t want to cross the two.

Did Mira used to be Avon?

I switched.

Hey bud - for the most part it worked great following the guide. The static IP was very important because dropbear is active before DNS (at least in my config) so you have to configure it in a way that you can definitively find it - and a static IP was the way. I just gave it an easy to remember one at 10.0.0.3 since I already have important things at *.1 and *.2.

Another thing that tripped me up originally is that you need to SSH as the root user. That doesn’t seem to be your problem since you’re not getting there over the network, but FYI for when you fix it.

Destination Host Unreachable

That’s definitely a network problem. Maybe fire it up and then check your router for active IP leases and see which one it took?

I’m attempting all of this over wifi, in case that matters

It probably shouldn’t matter in any super meaningful way, but I do have mine hardwired with cat6 so that could definitely be a difference.

Definitely let us know how it goes - you’re adding to the knowledge pool and that’s awesome.

EDIT : Make sure you can find it on the network first, then work backwards from there. At the moment, it seems like you aren’t getting network connectivity.

I started a blog specifically to make me document these things in a digestable manner. I doubt anyone will ever see it, but it’s for me. It’s a historical record of my projects and the steps and problems experienced when setting them up.

I’m using 11ty so I can just write markdown notes and publish static HTML using a very simple 11ty template. That takes all the hassle out of wrangling a website and all I have to do is markdown.

If someone stumbles across it in the slop ridden searchscape, I hope it helps them, but I know it will help me and that’s the goal.

But what about videos of DOGS farting?

We should start using “my friend Anna” similarly to “friend of Dorothy” but for books.

I mostly use the discord browser application but I almost never stream or video chat - I switch to the native client the once or twice a year I need that. On my computer the browser app uses about 700MB of RAM (Firefox) and the native uses over 1GB. I’ve been on an optimization kick lately (VSCode->Theia->Helix) so I went looking and found Legcord which used around 500MB and then Discordo that used… 26MB?

I kind of like Discordo (TUI) but it’s definitely not for everybody and you definitely don’t get video/audio chat.

Anywho, just wanted to post about alternative clients since I’d recently researched them.

Don’t get me wrong, they’re currently still huge. But I saw a 2024 or 2025 Tacoma a few weeks ago that looked a fair bit smaller than the previous year models. I’m hoping we’re on the rebound and that they’re going to continue to decrease in size. Guess we’ll see but I’m hoping so too.

I will say that I love a (tiny) extended cab - Toyota calls/called them the “access cab” and on the old (early to mid-90s) S10’s I had I think they called them a “king cab”. Having space in the cab to store tools, camping/emergency gear, etc is really nice. There are ““seats”” there in the Tacoma, presumably to get around the chicken tax, but they are horrible to use as such. The ones in the old S10 folded up into the side walls which was awesome. They were out of the way but available for the 0.0001% of the time you needed them and those actually weren’t too horribly uncomfortable since they faced the center of the vehicle instead of forward.

Cars keep on getting bigger,

(US) I’ve noticed over the past couple of years that “small” trucks are starting to shrink again. Seems they finally hit critical mass.

I remember when the Toyota Tacoma was a truly small truck (up through the late 1990s, maybe early 2000s?). If I’m not mistaken, the 2015-2020ish Tacoma is the size of the 90s Toyota Tundra which was a “big” truck at the time. It’s stupid. I need a truck but I don’t need a $100,000 tank with a quad cab and a useless fucking tiny bed. About 75% of the people I know that buy those huge quad cab trucks actually need a minivan because all they use it for is shuttling their kids around but, of course, minivans aren’t “cool”.

… now I’m getting off topic but minivans are freaking awesome. Assuming the seats are stowable or removable, you get a ton of (enclosed) cargo space (more than those stupid quad cab trucks with tiny beds) and can optionally move a lot of people or a lot of cargo. They are fantastic for road trips if you need more space than a typical sedan.

This is one of the things in life that makes me irrationally angry. Give us small trucks that are actually small.

One example I like to use is to ask it for the lyrics of an extremely well known song. It just makes shit up based on the title you give it.

The online ones (Claude, chatgpt, copilot, etc) now refuse to do it for ““copyright reasons”” but the offline ones still happily oblige. I assume the online ones added that block because it was such an obvious way to prove they don’t “know” shit.

Glad to see this comment on the chain. I haven’t tried it myself (yet) but I’ve got a friend that does and says it works great.

It’s on my list. Unfortunately, it’s a really long list.

My problem with this, if I understand correctly, is I can usually do all of this faster without having to lead a LLM around by the nose and try to coerce it into being helpful.

That said, search engines do suck ass these days (thanks LLMs)

Without the payoff of the next generation of developers learning.

Management: “Treat it like a junior dev”

… So where are we going to get senior devs if we’re not training juniors?