• jabjoe@feddit.uk
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    2 years ago

    It is not baseless if there is form with other goods. Let’s not pretend Chinese manufacturing has a good reputation. Time with the cars being good will fix that, but it is still a thing to overcome.

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      2 years ago

      Chinese EVs have been sold internationally for years, they’re performing better than other cars and test better and safer, other companies have failed those tests yet your only concerns are about Chinese cars.

      Your “concerns” are simple prejudice by your own standards.

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        2 years ago

        I’m sure over time, if they keep up a good standard, the whole “Chinesium” thing will go away. Would help if other stuff from China was better made too.

        The world needs EVs at the price, range and quality these appear to be. European and American companies will only bought a bit of time by fear of “Chinesium” and spyware.

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            2 years ago

            I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.

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              2 years ago

              That’s my whole point.

              Your arguments about “Chinesium” are racist and unwarranted if you have any idea about a) how products supply chains work or b) stick to the topic of EVs, which passes all of your targeted requirements but you maintain is still bad in some way solely because of their ethnicity.

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                2 years ago

                You haven’t picked up I’m not saying for sure they are bad. Just that I have low trust because of past non-EV product experience. Lots of people in this boat. That’s just reality.

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                    2 years ago

                    I’m not back peddling, I’m just spitting out any words you try and put in my mouth for a canned argument rebuttal. Or maybe we are just talking past each other. As long as both want good EV to replace ICE cars and fair trading, we’re probably not far off each other. As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up and cheap substand manufacturing will move to another country. Then that place or places will get the bad rap to climb out of. The cycle continues. Pretty that is starting now.