I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.
Your arguments about “Chinesium” are racist and unwarranted if you have any idea about a) how products supply chains work or b) stick to the topic of EVs, which passes all of your targeted requirements but you maintain is still bad in some way solely because of their ethnicity.
You haven’t picked up I’m not saying for sure they are bad. Just that I have low trust because of past non-EV product experience. Lots of people in this boat. That’s just reality.
I’m not back peddling, I’m just spitting out any words you try and put in my mouth for a canned argument rebuttal. Or maybe we are just talking past each other. As long as both want good EV to replace ICE cars and fair trading, we’re probably not far off each other. As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up and cheap substand manufacturing will move to another country. Then that place or places will get the bad rap to climb out of. The cycle continues. Pretty that is starting now.
You must know that it’s not total wealth of the nation, but the wealth of citizens that matters. When China is broadly all middle class, there won’t be cheap labour. Amazon, EBay and others is still awash with cheap goods that doesn’t always pass standards claimed. As I’ve repeatedly said, I don’t just blame Chinese companies for this, but those large multinational companies. I have said multiple times, it is unfair that Chinese manfacturing is blamed alone for this. There really should be “Amazilian” to go with “Chinesium” or something that combines them. This cheap crap is a problem for a lot of people. The environment. The buyers, not protected by the standards of their markets. Other manufacturers, having to acturally follow the standards, so struggle to compete on cost even more. It has made people, including me, skeptical of what may well be quality good coming out of China. Time will tell and build reputation. I hope for the end of cheap crap, but as I said, it will move on from China. Other economies have room for a lot of growth until all citizens everywhere are broadly similar. Seams like none of this is something I haven’t basically said at least once before…
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I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.
That’s my whole point.
Your arguments about “Chinesium” are racist and unwarranted if you have any idea about a) how products supply chains work or b) stick to the topic of EVs, which passes all of your targeted requirements but you maintain is still bad in some way solely because of their ethnicity.
You haven’t picked up I’m not saying for sure they are bad. Just that I have low trust because of past non-EV product experience. Lots of people in this boat. That’s just reality.
aooao
I’m not back peddling, I’m just spitting out any words you try and put in my mouth for a canned argument rebuttal. Or maybe we are just talking past each other. As long as both want good EV to replace ICE cars and fair trading, we’re probably not far off each other. As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up and cheap substand manufacturing will move to another country. Then that place or places will get the bad rap to climb out of. The cycle continues. Pretty that is starting now.
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You must know that it’s not total wealth of the nation, but the wealth of citizens that matters. When China is broadly all middle class, there won’t be cheap labour. Amazon, EBay and others is still awash with cheap goods that doesn’t always pass standards claimed. As I’ve repeatedly said, I don’t just blame Chinese companies for this, but those large multinational companies. I have said multiple times, it is unfair that Chinese manfacturing is blamed alone for this. There really should be “Amazilian” to go with “Chinesium” or something that combines them. This cheap crap is a problem for a lot of people. The environment. The buyers, not protected by the standards of their markets. Other manufacturers, having to acturally follow the standards, so struggle to compete on cost even more. It has made people, including me, skeptical of what may well be quality good coming out of China. Time will tell and build reputation. I hope for the end of cheap crap, but as I said, it will move on from China. Other economies have room for a lot of growth until all citizens everywhere are broadly similar. Seams like none of this is something I haven’t basically said at least once before…
Repeating your incorrect or racist tangents multiple times is not a virtue, not does it suddenly make your false statements suddenly true