Itā€™s one thing to have differing views, but Iā€™ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far havenā€™t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit.

I am also glad that Iā€™m getting away from redditā€™s general political shitposting, which was more left leaning. You couldnā€™t have any proper discourse on there, and even I with my generally more left leaning views recognized that.

  • smallerdemon@kbin.social
    56Ā·
    2 years ago

    ā€œThe paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.ā€ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

    I for one welcome our intolerant of intolerance server admins across the fediverse.

    • kokoapadoa@kbin.social
      8Ā·
      2 years ago

      I like to think of it as tolerance as a social contract. If you arenā€™t tolerant, you break the terms of the contract and are not privileged to benefit from it.

    • lvxferre@kbin.social
      3Ā·
      2 years ago

      I get why youā€™re posting this comic and I contextually agree with you. However, the comic itself is bad, and it distorts quite a bit what Popper said.

      The quote in the Wikipedia link that youā€™ve shared is considerably better:

      Less well known [than other paradoxes] is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.ā€”In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
        0Ā·
        2 years ago

        Sorry, but what comic are you referring to? Some other users also referenced panels of a comic, but I donā€™t see any comicā€”or any link other than to Wikipedia.

        Has the user edited it out?

        • Mr_Figtree@kbin.social
          2Ā·
          2 years ago

          Either it was edited in and that edit didnā€™t reach your instance, or Lemmy doesnā€™t like something about how Kbin does images. Either way, hereā€™s a direct link to the comic (youā€™ll have seen it before, itā€™s posted a lot).

          • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
            1Ā·
            2 years ago

            and that edit didnā€™t reach your instance

            Annoyingly, I canā€™t view the post from its own instance because it seems like Kbin requires an account even to view?

            Would love if someone has a Lemmy link to any instance other than mine so I can rule out that first possibility.

            or Lemmy doesnā€™t like something about how Kbin does images

            This is definitely very possible. Iā€™ve already encountered cases where Kbin users werenā€™t able to interact with my images from Lemmy in quite the same way Lemmy users could.

    • Otome-chan@kbin.social
      1Ā·
      2 years ago

      you are the intolerant one, so we should not tolerate your intolerance? do you support yourself being banned from the fediverse entirely, due to your intolerance?