This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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      WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

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      after seeing this for a brief moment i forgot lemmy supported headings in markdown and assumed it started supporting MFM

      i’ve been spending too much time on calckey firefish

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      One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men’s bodies somehow wasn’t transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

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        Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn’t decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn’t even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn’t for a shitty mod post.

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        The guy said he wasn’t into dicks and that it would be weird to like something about his partner that they would want gone and dislike. That’s not transphobic. It honestly bonkers that people find that to be transphobic.

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        There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

        That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

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          It seems very “chaser” to me. In other comments, the poster mentioned how he was attracted to “post op trans women and pre op trans men”. Grouping those two demographics together in this way will never be seen as not chaser.

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              Someone who fetishizes trans people. You find trans people hot? That’s totally fine, you can have preferences. But grouping post op trans women and pre op trans men sexually is saying that they’re being viewed as women regardless of their identity.

              If you wanna fuck a trans person, it should be because you’re attracted to them. Maybe you like boobs and penis together and that’s fine. Maybe you like a masculine chest and a vagina. You can be attracted to a certain intersection, even if that intersection is a straight one. But fucking them because they’re trans and exotic is chasing. If you like women, fuck trans women. If you like men, fuck trans men. But don’t just randomly flip them around like there’s no difference to you.

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      Honestly I didn’t realize this was a trans community. I thought ‘196’ was just some random number like the ‘4’ in 4chan. 196 just had good content. The fact it’s inclusive is just a bonus.

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        That’s partially to blame for all 196 communities having this weird “if you know you know” approach to writing their mission statement and rules. I’ve seen numerous people ask wth is 196 because of how vague the communities they saw were.

        But, particularly about the social politics, here’s also the thing I think. Trans rights are human rights. Communities fall under two categories: Welcoming to trans people, versus inherently evil. So I don’t think that a community is pro-trans should ever have to be stated. It should be assume, and whoever has a problem with it should go fuck off from society, Satan has a place for them.

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        It’s not a trans community per se, it’s more of a more trans-friendly shitposting community. Like, I think, even now majority of posters aren’t trans. And majority of content is not trans-themed, it’s not traa. It’s a good place if you don’t want to see only trans-themed memes, but also don’t want to see transphobia

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      Can you see my reply? I’m on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn’t be able to see your comment O_o (I’m used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)

      P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄

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        Being defederated just means you can’t see new posts on beehaw communities and they can’t see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you’ll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.

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          Let me just make sure I got this right

          Dee is on lemmy.world

          Zoop is on beehaw

          This thread is on lemmy.blahaj.zone

          So Dee and Zoop can see each other’s comments since neither lemmy.world nor beehaw is defederated from blahaj.zone?

          It’s like a border state or something

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            I can see Zoop’s comment, but Zoop can’t see mine. Because beehaw is defederated from lemmy.world but lemmy.world has not chosen to defederate from beehaw so it still gets the comments from beehaw users.

            Actually because all these replies are to my lemmy.world account Zoop can’t see this entire exchange, and I can’t see it on my beehaw account either. I just had a brain fart.

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          I’m not sure about that. I think it might be a glitch or something because I never see beehaw comments on lemmy.world and never see lemmy.world comments on my beehaw account. Like, I can’t see the comment I made on this account from my beehaw account.

          Just thought it was odd.

          I was just being dumb, Monzingo is right.

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    Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.

    If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!

    (And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)

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    This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn’t need to be permitted and I fully support that.

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    i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support

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    Trans people are regular, real people. Like my college friend. Or my wife’s HS friend. Or that one kind soul I worked with once.

    I’m so god damn sick of all the hatred and lies and bullshit and murder and sadistic laws against trans people.

    I loudly applaud any space that actively supports trans people and gives them a place free from hatred and assholes.

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    Damn straight queer.

    I’m just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

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    Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.

    Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that… ^

    -Sincerely a cis lesbian.

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      Can you explain the girldick thing? I’m a transman and that comes off as one of the many things that are low key alienating in expressions of support, but it’s possible I’m just mistaken.

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        The original reference (which triggered the OP to post) is a cis man saying he wouldn’t sleep with a pre op trans woman.

        He said something along the lines that girldick is disgusting, I’m saying it’s hot.

        If that’s problematic I can delete (not sure how that works on lemmy though). I would rather hear it from a trans woman though. If you want to discuss, go for it.

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          FYI, the person that you’re talking about, is not the reason I made this post, nor were they talking about trans women or girldick.

          This whole line of discussion is based on a misunderstanding of the original context I think

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          Maybe using a cis bigot’s words isn’t the best way to show trans support. Hurts that you’d rather hear it from a trans woman. I guess this place just isn’t for me or people like me. It happens. Pretty depressing though.

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        I’m not the person you were seeking clarification from but I took her comment to mean that she is a cis woman that’s sexually attracted to women, but also enjoys P.I.V. sex. Therfore she would be happy to discover that a woman she is attracted to has a penis.

        That’s just my interpretation though.

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          How far removed from the instigating post is that? It doesn’t seem all that different if we’re immediately diving into fuckables and unfuckables.

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            I think you’re saying I didn’t help you understand her position, fair enough.

            I mean this post is a place to voice support for the trans community and she said she likes having lesbian sex with trans women. I don’t think the statement was meant to support trans men, just trans women. Trans women tend to be the focus of a lot of the conversation. I think trans men and trans women have different experiences with transphobia and need different supports. If you’d like to talk about your feelings I’d be interested to learn.

            But also, she’s a lesbian so again it’s not too surprising that she would center women in her comment.

            I’m a cis het man that wants to support you. It occurs to me that the less time men spend thinking and talking about lesbian sex, the better adjusted they are. So I’m going to excuse myself from this conversation. Good luck out there man. I’m pulling for ya.

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    I don’t subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it’s awesome that you’re able to build this community.

    I’m not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he’d still be here.

    So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.

    I know people in real life who have transitioned. It’s a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one’s own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.

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    Thanks for this, honestly it was worrying how many upvotes some transphobic replies were getting.