A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).
And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…
And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.
And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯
(never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)
you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they’re homophobic. They’re probably not.
I don’t get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren’t part of the actual argument/idea being presented.
And you should really stop tone policing people making relevant points to the subject at hand, because it makes you uncomfortable, transphobe (yes, calling inclusion “nit-picking” is transphobic, no, there is no other reason for you to be dying on this hill, I wasn’t even “annoyed” as you put it, just stating the obvious - this isn’t my first rodeo, clown, and your reply proves me right, so… ¯\(ツ)/¯ ).
When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people
You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.
So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.
Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.
A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).
And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…
Well, if ACAB means All Cops Are Bad, then I’m guessing AFAB and AMAB must be All Females Are Bad and All Males Are Bad.
…Or maybe ACAB is supposed to mean Assigned Cop At Birth?
Both AMAB and ACAB are the same: Assigned Cock At Birth.
Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.
And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.
Feel free to educate yourself
not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough
And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯
(never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)
you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they’re homophobic. They’re probably not.
I don’t get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren’t part of the actual argument/idea being presented.
And you should really stop tone policing people making relevant points to the subject at hand, because it makes you uncomfortable, transphobe (yes, calling inclusion “nit-picking” is transphobic, no, there is no other reason for you to be dying on this hill, I wasn’t even “annoyed” as you put it, just stating the obvious - this isn’t my first rodeo, clown, and your reply proves me right, so… ¯\(ツ)/¯ ).
I’m not dumb enough to not see the tone of your previous comments. goodbye.
It means Assigned Male/Female At Birth, so it seems you agree.
Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer
When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people
You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.
So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.
Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.