ninjaedit: I’m about to rail on food ignorance on Lemmy. Your comment sparked, but this entire thread and many like it are the cause. Lemmy likes to think we’re smart and yet swallows (har har) so much fucking ignorance without researching or educating, it’s infuriating.
Ignorance about how food works is off the scales.
Pet food is indeed held to a lower standard than food for humans.
You may not like chicken that has been put into a blender and then cooked into a patty, but that is essentially what a McChicken or McNugget is. It’s like ground beef, only a bit finer grind. So if you don’t like the chicken products, you should barely tolerate hamburgers.
But I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that you’re probably one of the ones that thinks that burgers by most places are fake. Everything is fake! FAAAAKE!
Well, it largely isn’t.
For example, the rumour that they put wood in grated parmesan cheese. Cellulose is IN wood, yes, but it is a large part of what makes up vegetables, period. And it’s used to keep the cheese from clumping.
It’s like people who put egg and breadcrumbs in meatloaf to give it a certain texture and taste profile. Yes, sometimes “fillers” are added to meat products - FOR THE SAME REASONS. Is meatloaf “FAAAAAAAKE”?
Sure, rail against lower quality meats being used if you’d like and go but some wagyu and grind it yourself and make your own burgers if you want, but a lot of these products are using more of the animal, meaning it wastes less EDIBLE FOOD helping keep cost down and slightly better for the environment as each animal we kill to eat can go farther.
And MOST of the people complaining about all this “bad health” will go out to a sit-down restaurant and consume 1800+ calories of fat and sugar and salt or 1200+ calories for a “coffee” drink and do FAR more damage to their health than any fucking fast food ever could.
The misinformation just gets really fucking old. We can’t fix the ACTUAL problems because people refuse to fucking learn what the ACTUAL problems actually ARE.
This was a really heated response. Are you the Sam Altman of fast food? I think your perspective is interesting. A lot of stuff does say, textured protein in lettering.
Also I don’t where you’ve lived but sugars, fats, and salts are essential. That 1800 calories of fat could mean life or death lol. I could easily do 5000-10000 calories in a day where I used to live.
Wagyu is awesome and I’ve had plenty. Getting food directly from farmers is something I enjoy. And I don’t have a problem with hunting my own food.
“The misinformation just gets really fucking old. We can’t fix the ACTUAL problems because people refuse to fucking learn what the ACTUAL problems actually ARE.”
Maybe, but a lot isn’t misinformation. If it’s banned across the globe, maybe it’s not that good for you?
Also I don’t where you’ve lived but sugars, fats, and salts are essential. That 1800 calories of fat could mean life or death lol. I could easily do 5000-10000 calories in a day where I used to live.
The average human needs around 2000 calories per day. Soldiers might need more like 4000+ during combat operations. Unless you used to live in a hard labor camp, 10,000 calories per day would probably have caused you to become obese within months.
Consuming a day’s worth of calories in one meal while consuming other meals is why many in the world are obese.
The cold by itself does not affect calories, if you are sufficiently clothed.
If you are exposed to the point of actively shivering, you might burn something like 100-200 calories per hour. HOWEVER, you would succumb to hypothermia and die.
If you are talking about performing heavy labour, you could perhaps double your daily needs. But 10,000 calories is still wildly unlikely and anyone needing 10,000 calories per day is probably going to die quickly from that much exertion.
-40
-40°F or -40°C? Trick question, of course, as those are equal. heh. Unless you mean -40° Kelvin, in which case you have other problems like possibly breaking the laws of the universe.
It’s one of those scenarios where it should just be called some pork some textured protein “product”
I did buy a mcchiken without know it was basically cat food coming out a tube.
ninjaedit: I’m about to rail on food ignorance on Lemmy. Your comment sparked, but this entire thread and many like it are the cause. Lemmy likes to think we’re smart and yet swallows (har har) so much fucking ignorance without researching or educating, it’s infuriating.
Ignorance about how food works is off the scales.
Pet food is indeed held to a lower standard than food for humans.
You may not like chicken that has been put into a blender and then cooked into a patty, but that is essentially what a McChicken or McNugget is. It’s like ground beef, only a bit finer grind. So if you don’t like the chicken products, you should barely tolerate hamburgers.
But I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that you’re probably one of the ones that thinks that burgers by most places are fake. Everything is fake! FAAAAKE!
Well, it largely isn’t.
For example, the rumour that they put wood in grated parmesan cheese. Cellulose is IN wood, yes, but it is a large part of what makes up vegetables, period. And it’s used to keep the cheese from clumping.
It’s like people who put egg and breadcrumbs in meatloaf to give it a certain texture and taste profile. Yes, sometimes “fillers” are added to meat products - FOR THE SAME REASONS. Is meatloaf “FAAAAAAAKE”?
Sure, rail against lower quality meats being used if you’d like and go but some wagyu and grind it yourself and make your own burgers if you want, but a lot of these products are using more of the animal, meaning it wastes less EDIBLE FOOD helping keep cost down and slightly better for the environment as each animal we kill to eat can go farther.
And MOST of the people complaining about all this “bad health” will go out to a sit-down restaurant and consume 1800+ calories of fat and sugar and salt or 1200+ calories for a “coffee” drink and do FAR more damage to their health than any fucking fast food ever could.
The misinformation just gets really fucking old. We can’t fix the ACTUAL problems because people refuse to fucking learn what the ACTUAL problems actually ARE.
This was a really heated response. Are you the Sam Altman of fast food? I think your perspective is interesting. A lot of stuff does say, textured protein in lettering.
Also I don’t where you’ve lived but sugars, fats, and salts are essential. That 1800 calories of fat could mean life or death lol. I could easily do 5000-10000 calories in a day where I used to live.
Wagyu is awesome and I’ve had plenty. Getting food directly from farmers is something I enjoy. And I don’t have a problem with hunting my own food.
“The misinformation just gets really fucking old. We can’t fix the ACTUAL problems because people refuse to fucking learn what the ACTUAL problems actually ARE.”
Maybe, but a lot isn’t misinformation. If it’s banned across the globe, maybe it’s not that good for you?
The average human needs around 2000 calories per day. Soldiers might need more like 4000+ during combat operations. Unless you used to live in a hard labor camp, 10,000 calories per day would probably have caused you to become obese within months.
Consuming a day’s worth of calories in one meal while consuming other meals is why many in the world are obese.
Consuming a day’s worth of calories in one meal while consuming other meals is why many in the world are obese.
You’re not wrong there.
But -40 will burn you up so fast. I was constantly hungry.
The cold by itself does not affect calories, if you are sufficiently clothed.
If you are exposed to the point of actively shivering, you might burn something like 100-200 calories per hour. HOWEVER, you would succumb to hypothermia and die.
If you are talking about performing heavy labour, you could perhaps double your daily needs. But 10,000 calories is still wildly unlikely and anyone needing 10,000 calories per day is probably going to die quickly from that much exertion.
-40°F or -40°C? Trick question, of course, as those are equal. heh. Unless you mean -40° Kelvin, in which case you have other problems like possibly breaking the laws of the universe.
-40° Kelvin, in which case you have other problems like possibly breaking the laws of the universe.
You got a giggle out of me.
Yeah I did physical labor in the winter, so it was gamble of staying warm and not too warm.
But labour was the important bit for increased caloric needs. The average office worker would need much closer to the standard amount. :)
Agreed. I notice how much less I need to consume now, it’s kind of nice. I still stock up the fridge for a long winter out of habit lol