To not vote or to vote MAGA, the; outcome will be the same.
And the world will suffer for it.
As a non-American: please vote!!! Your country influences our lives too and we have had enough of that disgusting orange shit! Please vote Democrat
vote for whom ?
People should be reminded to vote.
People also need to be reminded that the 2 party system is a policy choice made by Republicans and the Democrats. We can be free to vote how we want. We can have no spoiler effect. We can have a race to the top, not a race to the bottom.
I hope doing things your way works if yall are truly ride or die on First-past-the-post voting. To continue to try the same thing and expecting different results… maybe it could work. The chance isnt 0%, i will admit that. Its gotta work after all.
This is where I would usually post videos on the flaws of First-past-the-post voting alongside videos going over alternative voting systems with no spoiler effect.
Those days have passed us by. Good luck everyone.
Abstaining from voting is just a vote to let others choose for you. It does not exempt you from the system.
You’re banned from .ml, !latestagecapitalism and r/Pyongyang.
I am also banned from .ml and LateStageCapitalism. Anyone who isn’t insufferable and possesses a functional brain is or will be banned from those wretched hives of scum and villainy.
BaD jAcKeTiNg
I don’t think the people downvoting this saw the mod who banned kingofras for bad jacketing proceeded to bad jacket someone else in the next thread about this subject.
Probably the same dick who banned me today honestly.
Lol. I think you got banned from Ye Powertrippin’ Bastards by that db0 dipshit right before I did.
It’s literally a sub for complaining about power tripping mods and that dipshit is going through it banning people he disagrees with. The irony is supreme.
I went to his profile and he describes himself as an “Epicurean Revolutionary Libertarian Socialist”, which had me rolling. How can he take himself seriously?
Libertarian lmao. “Leftist” instance run by someone identifying himself as a nazi pedophile. Rich.
Yep I am fairly sure we’re talking about the same person. Lol
They banned me from countless subs. I actually at that point realized I never have good experiences with that instance so I went ahead and blocked it.
Yeah, his name is literally “db0” because he’s on the dbzer0 instance. Guy’s a creative powerhouse. It had to have been him that banned us because the one other listed mod hasn’t been active in a few weeks.
Lemmy’s great, but it’s unfortunate how many popular subs are moderated by a single basement dwelling sad ass powertripping loser. They kill a significant portion of this platform for anyone that doesn’t want to slurp their shit up.
And yeah, I’m about to hit my 2 year mark on Lemmy and I can confirm that all these losers are coming from the dbzer0 and ml instances. They are a blight on the Lemmiverse. Same vibe I used to get from /r/conservative and /r/The_Donald. Just pathetic losers.
One effexor capsule at a time I assume
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Cuck voting
It’s not a protest, it’s a surrender.
Absolutely! You’re part of “the system” due to the fact that you exist…
If you think any of this will convince the commies to vote think again
They are only here too sow doubt and apathy in the interests of certain oligarchs
I prefer this equivalence: abstaining is voting according to the result of the election.
The comments in here are so fucking cringe. If you’re not voting democrat then you’re aiding republicans. Full stop. Want to know why women no longer have right to an abortion? Why brown people are getting thrown into camps? It’s because of fucking dipshits like you.
Vote out the Orange MAGA Turds and bring back the USA we knew before Jan 2017.
But the bus driver supports genocide. The whole bus is rotten. We should let the bus go off the cliff and then build a new bus. I’m sure enough of us will survive the crash to build a better bus afterwards. Many people will die but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
🤡🤡🤡
But the bus driver supports genocide. The whole bus is rotten.
You ever notice how the ‘burn it down’ people fall into two camps?
- not in the affected area: chicken-hawk types who advocate the sacrifice of others.
- in the affected area: I didn’t know the leopards of societal collapse, starvation, and violence, would eat my face.
Type 2 also includes the “why’s it taking so long? Look at all these people suffering through the collapse. We need to make it collapse faster so we get to the good part faster” people, without acknowledging that this is what collapse looks like: lots of suffering
Yeah but you can just blame all that suffering on the people trying to hold the whole thing together, because obviously if you just let the whole thing collapse then the suffering will end abruptly and a magical utopia can finally descend from the heavens! /s
You joke, but the number of people I’ve seen posting along the lines of ‘I don’t this, I’m exempted!’ Is extremely infuriating. The individualism bubble has them thinking it’s a shield from reality.
Oh, I know. Believe me, do I know…
Who said there was a good part to get to? Turns out damaging the bus in any manner, whether by driving, inaction, or burning it on the road, is all bad. No one has mentioned hitting the brakes… oh wait, which one of you cut the lines?
But the bus driver said it’s going to take a few extra hours to get to the destination because of all the buses creating congestion on the highway. So clearly burning the bus to the ground is the only viable option, and in fact, if you don’t light the match then you actually support traffic jams! /s
Making the downfall faster is fighting stupid with stupid. They are still bringing on the end of the world or whatever evangelicals are imagining.
There will be so much shit to eat your grandchildren will still be at it. I do not understand accelerationism or similar ideas one bit.
Just a bunch of moralists sniffing their own farts.
How about nobody in this situation is virtuous.
Go vote for pedo blue and tell yourself how righteous and great you are compared to the other shitty option camps.
Before you bitch and moan at me for differing from groupthink: I will be voting for blue pedo this turn about but I’m not gonna be online in a fart smelling circle with a bunch of do nothing moralists about it.
Please get over yourselves, you vote for slavery that’s out of sight abroad and pedos who eat babies so you can play gta6, you aren’t righteous.
pedo blue
This reeks of desperation.
I will be voting for blue pedo this turn about
Lol. Immediately abandon your morals. You don’t have a problem calling them pedos but you’ll vote for pedos…this time.
Literally what I’m talking about. Look down on people while you vote for a corporate democrat.
Your comment is exactly what I would expect from someone who just loves the smell of their own shit.
How are people supposed to feel bad about suffering when it’s people who talk down to them like you who will suffer? Maybe I will just not vote with them. Let’s crash the bus.
All in all, a good win for you though. Simpsons memes are always a hoot. I wish I was as moral and just and smart as you.
The fact you assume we aren’t holding our noses while we vote is your problem. You take a morally superior attitude while doing exactly what we’re doing. Except we don’t go around trash talking the people we’re voting for a few weeks before the election, since that might MAKE THEM FUCKING LOSE
Your presumptuousness and hypocrisy are disgusting.
Weird, I thought I was responding to your friends doing it first. Crazy you decided it’s my fault.
Your group is the one that immediately goes to ostracizing others.
I didn’t presume shit. It’s all written out before my response to this shit show. If you’re offended, I wonder why?
Bullshit. Quote me then. Quote me where I say anything close to “I like these candidates. They are my preferred choice out of all proposed options past and present”.
You can’t. Because it’s factually inaccurate. You can’t find that shit for most of us. Because that’s not how we feel. We’re all holding our noses, just like you.
If you can prove otherwise, I encourage you to do so.
How does it feel to sniff your own farts while accusing everyone else of sniffing theirs? Does it make the high you get more intense?
No u!
Exactly, all you have is projection…
“The five non-voters are the true anarchists who see the violence inherent in the system. Actually the two who voted against driving off the cliff are wrong for even supporting a system in which voters can choose to drive the bus off the cliff. They’re actually worse than the three who voted to drive the bus off the cliff, because they tacitly approve of driving the bus off the cliff just by participating in the system which allows the bus to be driven off the cliff, while fooling themselves into feeling morally absolved of the decision to drive off the cliff! So the non-voters are the only virtuous ones in this situation”
(The /s should be clear, right?)
(The /s should be clear, right?)
… are you new to the Fediverse? I encounter such arguments uttered unironically virtually every time I browse here - especially in election season.
You’re… not wrong…
Might I should have included a second “…right?” after that statement
It’s a toughie. Some people think indications of sarcasm ruin the fun.
I’m of the opinion that one should always clearly indicate satire due to Poe’s Law.
I like to put it in italics and sometimes attribute it to the group I’m parodying, or if an individual, I add “probably.” Observe:
“This entire thread is woke garbage. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I’ll drive this bus off that cliff better than anyone ever has. Better than Biden ever could. Biden tried to stop the bus and fill it with illegals. Putin promised me there’s rainbows at the bottom of that valley, and not the radical left rainbows either. The kind that leads you to beautiful, clean, black gold.”
- Donald Jeffreyepsteinsfavoritecustomer Trump, probably
Anakin stare intensifies
You’ve angered the .ml and .dbzer0 trolls.
Tankie tears are my favorite beverage.
Oops, all of the people who had the institutional knowledge to build a new bus died in the bus accident.
You call it clowning, but this is literally the strategy that was used to defeat slavery. The “play within the system” planned was attempted for nearly a hundred years by the Abolitionists. They tried your way again and again. Slavery only ended when they abandoned your way and started a third party.
Except a third party is still voting? I only clown on third party voters when they:
a) split the vote of a single party instead of pulling from both parties and new voters (because it only helps the remaining party cement their dominance in the next election through gerrymandering etc)
b) have clown policies that appeal only to emotion, with no path to implementation (I’m looking at you, Jill Stein and Ross Perot)
Show me a legitimate third party candidate with good policy proposals and a plan to gain votes without guaranteeing the worst candidate wins and I’ll vote for 'em, campaign for 'em, and more.
Third party isn’t burning the bus down or letting it drive off the cliff. Third party (when done well) is a third bus driver choice. I’m all for that.
Thank you for the clown emojis because I 100% thought you were seroius because of how many fools there are on Lemmy that believe that exact sentiment and they aren’t joking. Juvenile fools.
I almost added a /s too just to be safe
You can fairly reliably tell whether or not such a post/comment is made genuinely (albeit perhaps astroturfically) or sardonically by merit of the instance from which the commenter posts.
But you do need to build a new bus. You should start talking about how to stop the bus, let out the passengers, then setting fire to it.
Meanwhile: .ML BAD
It sounds stupid because it is…
Many people will die but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
But not from the genocides?
in both the thought experiment and the US vote, the genocide happens no matter which way you vote, or if you don’t vote at all… there are no choices that have a real chance of reducing the genocide
the genocide happens no matter which way you vote
Im glad yall are finally being honest.
How does social collapse stop the genocides? Explain that part in detail, because I’m pretty sure any global socioeconomic collapse will accelerate existing genocides and probably add quite a few more. Like, do you numpties understand half the world dies in your best case scenarios, the first of which will absolutely be all the people being genocided currently?
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Pedal to the metal, accelerate!
Appropriate emojis considering the message. Hoping they’re in place of a /s
Absolutely in place of /s
Good to know!!
I always vote but I usually have to write in my candidate.
It’s more like one group is voting to jump off a cliff and the other to run into an immovable object at full speed.
One side started war with iran while other side didn’t
One side destroyed relationship with strongest allies for nothing while other side didn’t.
One side went to war with people on the streets with ICE and lowered recruitment requirements while other side didn’t.
One side gave us Pete Hegseth while otherside didn’t.
One side started tariff war for nothing while other side didn’t.
Both sides same though I guess?
Nobody is ever convinced by some simplistic, irrelevant fairy tale.
No.
Go vote in October.
The dumbest thing is how we still haven’t done anything close to what France and other countries are doing to actually make their voice heard. Won’t change my mind. Yes, you should go vote. You should also overthrow the government.
