As if we needed further evidence that Schumer is a worthless, contemptible piece of shit.
Chuck needs to go. Come on New York you are fucking the country with this shit.
So, are you going to do everything possible to depose him? Or will you keep throwing a tantrum, refuse to vote, and let the regressives steamroll more?
Since he explicitly said that his job is “too keep the left pro-Israel,” his silence is perfectly in line with his job description.
It is enough to make one wonder in what country the Baelis reside.
That’s cause he’s a pos who enables this regime and Israel’s too.
Schumer and Jefferies both need to be removed.
I genuinely think things will devolve to the point that Americans using political violence against the establishment democrats is the only path forward. It’s fucked up. But I feel like it’s the only way America doesn’t devolve into a nation ending civil war. Actually. Cuz looking from the outside I don’t see the outcomes of any of your elections moving the needle anymore.
Voting out republicans doesn’t solve the problem of establishment democrats preventing newly elected democrats from fixing anything.
edit: Hopefully I’m wrong. But this is what I believe will happen.
I don’t know that violence is entirely necessary, but working toward the DSA becoming its own thing and letting the Establishment Dems crash in to the hard reality that nobody supported them in the first place, they just disapproved of them less than the absolute mayhem on the right should probably happen.
Upvoted; but please understand, I’m not describing what I want to happen. I’m applying my weapons grade autistic pattern recognition to my background in attending and paying attention to history classes.
The Republicans and Democrats are the sword and shield of the wealthy elites respectively.
I agree with you, it’s not necessary. But I’m warning you that it’s inevitable. Those are not mutually exclusive!
Obviously not everyone is going to agree with me on this. Hopefully I’m wrong.
I don’t think anyone should rule it out, I just don’t think the death blow to the elites is going to come from partisan politics anyway. I think we’re past the tipping point where the system as built can be salvaged.
I just don’t think the death blow to the elites is going to come from partisan politics anyway.
That’s beyond the scope of what I’m saying. I only mentioned wealthy elites to illustrate the role establishment dems play in subverting progress.
MMW USA will either play an integral role in the global working class uprising, or no longer exist in it’s current form by that time.
The only way the dsa will ever have any actual power is if they tea party the democratic party. Remaining a third party will in most districts in the US just make them a spoiler that gets republicans elected.
This is the answer. If people want change, they need to get active and primary democrats with the candidates they want.
Wishcasting some kind of third party into existence is naive and the outcome is we get more Republicans in power and life gets remarkably shittier as a consequence.
If we somehow get ranked choice voting, it’d be different. But right now there is only 2 viable choices in the general. Do what you can for the primary and hopefully you feel better about voting in the general. Sitting out or voting third party is just helping conservatives and their agenda being waged on America.
I specifically didn’t say their own party. Although there’s something to be said for fighting for a 3 party system, it’s simply not practical given the structure of the constitution. The only way to have an effective 3+ party system is starting over from scratch. The USA would not survive such a ground-up overhaul.
Yeah, I dont think reforming the Dems is possible anymore. I had hopes but it increasingly just seems like me huffing hopium. Dems wont charge your family for the bullet for your execution, but they will still pull the trigger when their klpetocrat rulers tell them to-- same as the GOP. Some would say that lesser evil is the best we can hope for, I think we should all disagree and have a real government.
If we’re taking violence, I’ll start with Republican’s, thanks.
But Schumer is Republican.
Yeah, the Murc’s Law vibes are strong in this thread. Attacking…Democrats? First? What is even happening?
lmao no you wont
Not the way you seem to want propaganda man
Dem Centrist leaders will cheer you on, then knife you in the back when you’re fighting, then when you have finally got the republicans vlying anquished on the floor, the dems will lift them back up and forgive everything they did. Centrists are as much your enemy as your friend. Its literally in their name, “centrist”.
I said start with, not end with.
Which is exactly my point fyi. If establishment democrats continue to undermine the democratic will of their voters than inevitably their voters will turn to extra-democratic solutions.
Call it what you will. Says more about you than it does me.
Americans don’t get to gripe non-Americans wishing acceleration on them. Full stop.
So…. You don’t advocate for violence against MAGA, just the Democrats. Got it.
Welcome to fuckin Lemmy where every fucking thing the republicans do is a democrats fault for some dumb fuckin tankie-ass reason.
It’s a Murc’s Law paradise in some of these threads. It’s beyond ridiculous.
If I wanted to get that kind of opinion, it’s all over the place in every corner of the “liberal media” and the extremely right wing media.
Yeah. I’m seeing that. It’s like they aren’t clever enough to hide their bias though.
I think they were saying that it will take both. So it’s a bit of a both sides argument, but really it’s an accelerationist or total collapse argument if you really follow through on those actions.
Anyone that doesn’t actively advocate voting for the most progressive candidate in every primary and then preventing republicans from gaining power at any cost in the general is an accelerationist.
Yeah it sucks, but it’s the only rational solution in the current rules.
Of course he hasn’t. Omar actually cares and isn’t a corporate ass licker. She is exactly what Mr. Stern Letter Glasses On The Tip Of His Nose Schnuck doesnt want in the Democratic party. Omar getting denaturalized and deported would be a win as far as he is concerned.
That’s because Chuck is, what we Americans call, a pussy. Always has been a sniveling politician who follows the money. Yet New York continues to elect the little fucker.
Dudes part of the domestic enemies club.
If you think Schumer’s a pussy. then he’s done his job well.
He exists for you to think he’s a pussy. That is literally his purpose, and is literally the job his
employersowners pay him for.And he has a history of being a no-holds-barred fighter for what his owners want.
Yeah, he seems to fight for what matters (to the donors).
Fuck Schmuck
For context, Marjorie Taylor Greene has said more in Omar’s defense than Schumer.
She’s trying to make her own persona/platform/character, so she’s craving attention hardcore.
For sure, and don’t get me wrong, this is meant as a condemnation of Schumer, not praise for Greene.
I wouldn’t believe him if he said he stands in support of Omar, but he doesn’t even care enough to lie like Marge did. Schumer isn’t even pretending to give a shit about anything that isn’t Israel. There’s no veil anymore. These old fucks are too lazy to even play politics in their job as a politician.
I think Schumer knows he’s a dead man walking. He won’t be reelected in '28, and he won’t be Majority Leader if they take back the Senate. Jefferies (unfortunately) has a shot of hanging in; he’s just as weak and feckless as Schumer, but he kept his caucus together on the shutdown, while Schumer caved. That’s why even normie centrist Democrats want him out, and why he can’t even be bothered to pretend he’s a political leader anymore.
Nor will he. His job is to sit down and shut up.
Or help Trump. That is what he seems to do most often.
Good cop bad cop. Both cops get paid from the same source.
Because he’s a scumbag AIPAC shill, like most politicians in the US.
Schumer is the epitome of the establishment.
There’s nothing good about Schumer, so that’s not applicable.
Omfg. People. Chuck Schumer is a conservative. ALL neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been. That’s why we’re in fascism now.
There is no peaceful way out of conservatism. As long as they continue to exist, we will continue to be oppressed.
Chuck Schumer has consistently opposed the current admins use of ICE, he was the reason the DHS and then just the ICE were without funding until GOP budget reconciliation.
Get out there and vote because lives depend on it.
And then he gave up and gave the GOP absolutely everything it asked for. He was putting on a show that lasted a couple weeks. Your defense of Schumer is as dishonest as his “resistance” to fascism.
Get out there and vote for progressives, not conservatives.
Incorrect, no DNC voted for the GOP budget reconciliation. Not even Fetterman. It passed 50-48 in the Senate and 215 to 214 in the house.
It’s not conservativism we are stuck with, it’s liberalism. Republicans are the conservative side of liberalism
It’s important to keep in mind that the wealthy have spent hundreds of years fighting to make sure that people in the US believe the word “liberal” means the opposite of what it actually means.
So instead of downvoting your response because of what it says, people will downvote you because of what they THINK it says.
Silence is compliance. Deplatform.
Old guys who are entrenched, whether democrat or republican, should finally get the hell out of dodge and let the next generation take over.
We give them the option to take what they have and cut ties with the rest. If they go out kicking and screaming, SEIZE IT ALL!
This, especially for all the Republicunts with heavy ties in the current admin. Lay it out and give it to them like this. Look, we know for the last couple years during Trump, your finances have grown exponentially. Through wildly illegal means. So, it goes like this, you forfeit all of your ill gotten gains and walk away peacefully. We remove all the bullshit laws that were created and disperse the money towards the deficit and less fortunate. if you have one negative thing to say, just one! WE TAKE IT ALL! And you get to meet Mr. Guillotine!
That’s quite extreme, but then again, so is today’s world.
They wont. They will need to be dragged out kicking and screaming. Very few of them seem to be honorable or decent people.
Voters can always vote them out.
That’s what I always thought but the big money guys like elon seem like they can now buy elections. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me considering trump winning a second term.
People like JD? He’s the “next generation”, I guess. Or a few generations down, actually. He’s Gen Y.
Not sure what age has to do with it. Or the number of terms.
The answer is to primary fuckers like this with someone better. No matter how old they are.
