I cannot think of any way a coffee
massivemachine could be improved by connecting it to the Internet.You mean you dont need your machine to tell some ad brokers to contact you about needing to buy more coffee soon?
I guess some kind of home automation setup could start coffee brewing when you wake up or just before you get home.
It does seem like a pretty marginal benefit.
That being said, I have a hard time understanding why so many people own other IoT things, say, smart speakers. Like, I just don’t see the problem that they’re solving.
I remember having a coffee machine that worked on a timer, like 25 years ago, it didn’t need the internet
I’d love my hifi to have the possibility to be controlled from say my phone, because sometimes it’d be neat. But that’s about it. I actually set it up but it’s more of a hassle than a benefit so I just dropped it.
If it wasn’t for all the snooping and crap, we’d already have a super home control system, but today is not yet the day…
It’s not the snooping, it’s companies making their own incompatible proprietary system and jealously guarding it to force you to only buy their stuff, except everybody else is doing the same thing so the actual result is that getting things working together and keeping it all working is a pain in the ass.
Coffee machines have had programmable auto-start at X time for decades at this point, no app or internet required, just a digital clock and simple, dumb electronics.
We’re still talking about marginal, unnecessary things, but with a “smart” coffee pot, you could in theory start the pot when you’re a few minutes away from home, if you like some after work. A pot connected to something like home assistant (which I have no idea if it exists) can brew the pot only on your workdays, or you can start it after you leave the bedroom, regardless of time. You could probably do quite a few “neat” things.
In my case, throwing alarms on it instead of my phone…
Saves the room for an alarm clock and my ass in case the phone is out of battery.
Also controlling music via voice while cooking/with dirty hands or from the phone…
All of this said, my speaker isn’t smart yet, maybe I’ll try 1an IR bridge tho. But these use-cases should be achievable with homeassistant
I’ve seen a few espresso maker models on James Hoffman’s channel that allow users/roasters to share brewing profiles online. Not that the feature requires internet, but it does make it easier.
I can only think of negative things that could result frankly. WTF.
In the 1970’s I had a smart toaster that would pop the bread up to let me know it was finished with it’s toasting task. /s
I have a toaster that is smart enough to perfectly toast any bread you can fit into it, regardless of density, thickness or even if it’s frozen, and it’s from the 1950s.
It’s probably running a proxy server so the company can sell your internet connection to the AI scrapers.
Or vibecoded firmware that is sending every piece of telemetry Claude decided it needed to some hard coded local ip address and NO HUMAN has ever looked at the code or the network traffic.
Funny how they write all surprised, and then request permission to track and serve advertising by 1746 of their closest business partners 🤣
He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet
So probably pinging the entire network with discovery packets multiple times per second and doing nothing with the result.
Not doing nothing, actively searching and sending infrequent updates, as what appears in these networks in sellable data as this can track who is in the home, how many people, who lives there who just visits who lives nearby, what kind of smart tv or other iot devices are connected etc…
1T is not even a full season of The Rise and Fall of Sanctuary Moon.
It is a premium quality show, after all.
This might be the best example of a non-news story I’ve ever read.
It literally was nothing.
Maybe, but what could have that machine been spitting on the LAN constantly?
Probably broadcasting to try and find a phone running the control app, except a software bug set the broadcast delay to zero so it was sending thousands of broadcasts per second.
It’s because now that HDDs are needed for AI data centers, they put them on coffee machines /j
I can feel the coffee snobs crying out in pain from here
An aeropress and electric kettle is the way to go, quick and super easy to press out the grind, then a quick rinse and you’re done cleaning
The video is missing that in cowboy coffee you should add coffee untill a horse shoe floats (but seriously, he’s pouring it all down the drain??).
He’s not pouring the coffee down the drain. He was demonstrating that adding cold water to the top forced the grounds to the bottom.
I guess he served the coffe first, but it sure looked like he poured it all away lolol 😂.
Hey you’re not alone. I, too, was lost in the sauce and confused.
What I’m somewhat curious about is that typically to what degree are smart appliances usable without their app & the network.
I have a smart air fryer & a smart scale. Neither has been set up to connect to wifi or my phone & both work just fine …
I think in most cases it’s added functionality and convenience at the cost of privacy, sure the scale is still gonna tell you how much you weigh, but what if it automatically saved that to an app so you can track your weight loss progress without writing it down manually (as long as you’re OK with some company also having that info so they can share ads with you for weight loss products to help you reach that goal faster without allowing you to build the habits to do it right.
Isn’t it nice that you can just ask your fridge if there’s milk in it while you’re at the store rather than hoping you have milk, or assuming you dont? Disregard the fact that Samsung is using that fridge to know whether or not you’re home right now, if you have an iPhone, or what kind of smart TV you have. It’s still a fridge, it still keeps things cool, until a firmware update breaks that of course, guess you just need to buy a new fridge, it’s been a couple years anyway.
Sometimes (though not often) the smart appliance is cheaper since they know they’re gonna make money on the data.
There’s going to be a market for pre-AI, pre IoT stuff. I’m convinced.
Going to be? The vast majority of appliances are still sold without this nonsense.
Yes. It is a guess. I’m using TVs and kitchen appliances as a basis for that guess.
Which, shame on me, I should go look for data on this. Someone has to have some statistics on it.
for about two years since they were sold
