• SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    Karl Marx was alive during the civil war. We know what he and his fellow communists thought about it. In fact, some of his fellow Communists were Forty-Eighters: German Radicals who were exiled after the failed revolutions of 1848, many of whom fought in the civil war.

    One of them was August Willich, an ardent Communist who thought Marx of all people was too conservative. A “Tankie” of his day.

    The German Communists, like Willich, who fought in the American Civil War believed that the war against slavery, and in the side of the Union, was a Social Revolution against the reactionary landed gentry of the south.

    Many Forty-Eighters settled in Southwest, Ohio. If you go to the rapidly gentrifying Cincinnati neighborhood of Over The Rhine, it’s called that because it was originally made up of forty-eighter German immigrants, who became active participants in the underground railroad, and helped set up social programs to educate freed slaves, and provide them with housing and such.

    So the only person lacking critical thinking here is you OP. You’ve made up a guy in your head, to get mad at.

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      Y’all really can’t help yourselves but to come into every anti-tankie post in the fediverse to call the OP stupid, huh?

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        There’s folk who can’t help but make anti-tankie posts in the fediverse, which specifically and directly are requests for that kind of responsive content.

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      13 hours ago

      Oh friend, you have this wrong, I agree 100%, sorry for not spelling it out! This meme is about the blind modern day teamist support for any “anti-west” regime, no matter how vile.

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        6 hours ago

        Don’t talk down to me. You made up a guy to get mad at. There is no human being on earth who holds the position you claim “Tankies” hold.

        Delete this post.

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          Delete this post.

          Nah, this meme is about the Russia-supporting dorks we see so much of. You don’t want to see more jokes about losers who twist themselves into intellectually and morally bankrupt shapes to defend authoritarianism, block button’s right there, because I’m gonna keep clowning on em :)

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        11 hours ago

        So why are you listening unquestioningly to team pedophile and team genocide?

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      I am not OP but a Black anarchist vanguard.

      I wouldn’t mention the latter occasionally because you’re still using lemmy, so you can’t see my «Politics» label.

      I sat down to review all your historical assertions without a single citation. Meaning, I won’t cite back if you don’t.

      Are there Achtundvierziger today, or similar vanguard parties?

      Godric maybe projecting the trends a sees from camp threadiverse comments & posts, but do we even have a contemporary vanguard party doing praxis? PSL legitimately doesn’t count, so if you bring them as an example, we have nothing further to discuss. You can also work with Godric to end campist rhetorizing moving forward. Whenever you both see campism, hold them accountable. I believe all of us🧵 want to end campism. I in particularly want to see Dengism邓理论 gone forever.

      Be aware that I use this instance exactly because I have given up on 习 🥾👅. So honestly don’t bring it up.

      I am open for anything else.

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        17 hours ago

        Any additional questions?

        Yeah, what in the ever living fuck are you talking about? This AI listicle-ass comment is genuinely illegible to me. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

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            The ordered list in that comment serves no purpose, as the items are not even properly grouped. It just hurts readability.

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              They are grouped by topics 1 respondent, 2 politics, 3 literacy confirmation, 4 thesis, 5 warning, 6 intersection check, 7 commentary, 8 openness to dialogue

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                So, at the very least:

                • 1 and 2 pertain to the same topic. 2 even continues the same sentence.
                • 4 and 5 should be grouped together, as 5 refers to 4.
                • 6 and 7 should be grouped together. In part because they both are just regurgitation of propaganda made by y the same people that sold you on Nayirah’s testimony, Iraq WMDs and the like. (Also, have to chuckle at the “campism” but when you very openly engage in pro-NATO campism.)
                • Just using standard paragraphs and not an ordered list would be more readable, since you are not enumerating anything, nor is there a good case for referring to each of these items by the numbers outside of the conversation about how useless the ordered list is here.
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                  1 differentiates from op, 2 outlines my politics which may also differ from op. Continued sentences is something everyone does, no?

                  I can def. combine4&5, but will SpookyBogMonster keep quiet about point 4 if 5 is the only choice?

                  6&7 need to be separated, as 6 is my intersection for Godric’s plea to end campist rhetorics, not my personal antidengist praxis.

                  you very openly engage in pro-NATO campism

                  whence?

                  nor is there a good case for referring to each of these items by the numbers outside of the conversation

                  brevity, citation, referencing, value, formatting, etc…

                  I’ll edit an essay format you then.

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                    1 differentiates from op, 2 outlines my politics

                    Yes, but the way you separated them makes things less readable. They should be combined into the same sentence, not into two separate numbered list items.

                    I can def. combine4&5, but will SpookyBogMonster keep quiet about point 4 if 5 is the only choice?

                    Not clear what you mean here.

                    6&7 need to be separated, as 6 is my intersection for Godric’s plea to end campist rhetorics

                    Firstly, what do you mean by “intersection for a plea”? I suspect you think that the word “intersection” means something other than what it means.
                    Secondly, Godric isn’t making any pleas here. Godric is simply running propaganda for the most prolific invader in the world and hates on socialists.

                    whence?

                    I will assume you meant “where?”, and not “whence?”. I suspect that you think that those words are synonyms.
                    Like, for example, when you claimed that Salvador Allende did a genocide. Also, complaints about “campism” are usually just support for colonialism (highly doubt that that is not the case for you). I can find more examples.

                    brevity, citation, referencing, value, formatting, etc…

                    It isn’t any more brief than using standard paragraphs, nor does it simplify referencing, as one would just use markdown quotation for that here anyway.
                    Not at all sure what you mean by “value” here.
                    Your chosen way of formatting texts just makes them less readable.

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      A lot of people in the west think that Communists/Socialists are all leftwing, when there’s plenty of conservative traditionalist Communists.

      There just more modern and outside the us, in places like China, Africa, Asia, and South America.