What I don’t do, is comment on every Garfield comic that I see posted to whine that I don’t like Garfield. I don’t even feel a hint of desire to do that.
This is why people who see all the anti-Pizzacake comments on every one of her comics know that it’s not really about the comics. It’s people who are angry at seeing popular comic lady who self-inserts in many of her comics again and need to share that anger. It’s just kinda pathetic.
I’ll take a stab at explaining myself. I like them OK. I’ve never followed her or been inclined to reshare her work on social media, but I would describe crossing her work as “generally enjoyable”. I think a lot of her work, like the example here, is more of a slice-of-life anecdote about an experience she had, rendered in the medium of the comic strip. It doesn’t strike me as a joke, more like “Hey world, here’s a thing that happened and my brief reaction to it”. And I like it because I recognize the pattern and I feel sympathy for her. Nazis… overreact to things. Being extreme is kinda their signature move, and they seem to feel an obligation to be as unpleasant as possible to anyone being critical of them.
But, they almost always find other excuses to be shitty than “You criticize nazis and it hurts my feelings / makes me feel threatened, because I’m a nazi”. They find the easiest excuse they can to bother you with, except the actual reason they’re interacting in the first place. If they are harassing a woman, they have a standard variety pack of insults they can pull from. You’re a whore, you’re ugly, you’re shrill or some variant thereof, you’re pretending to be a lesbian because no man wants you, etc. I think the strategy is quantity over quality because nazi hatespam is remarkably consistent both in its volume and its unoriginality. It really does happen, and it is hurtful in a kind of “I can’t believe humans waste their short lives being this uncreatively shitty” sorta way as well as just being generally mentally taxing, and it’s nice to be able to commiserate over it. It’s not exactly “ha ha” funny, but it is relatable in a way I appreciate in art.
This one is structured rather like joke, in that the last panel could be interpreted as a punchline to the previous setup, but I didn’t read it that way and I don’t think the idea of reading it that way would have occurred to me if I weren’t analyzing it now. I can see how the last panel could be interpreted as an unfunny joke if that is what was being looked for. That’s my hypothesis about why this comic is being received poorly by some, but not all, of the people in this thread. Let me know if I’m right 🙂 or wrong lol.
Personally I think at the beginning thely were cute, funny, and at bare minimum I give bonus points to anyone starting out trying to do something rather than listen to di guses who think that there’s a hard baseline for content.
But I do think she became some sort of Reddit beast that got stuck in a flattery eddie off to the side of the R/ALL tributary and stopped getting meaningful criticism and it hurt a lot of her output and growth.
And yet she still has more talent and entertainment value then a bunch of slackjawed comment troglydites with the most incredibly iroic sense of mediocre.
Eh, she was there before the big reddit change over, and true she seemed like she could roll with the punches but that ended pretty fast. If you’re at all curious to look it up, it seems some of the artists in r/comics are getting a little tired of her, and are hesitantly more vocal about it.
I mean I’m not disagreeing. If anything I hate Reddit more for being a crushing echo chamber that takes people who might have a good thing going and turning them into steralized, nonfunctional content monsters.
I do think it’s a time will tell kind of thing. Even SrGrapho just sort of fell into a hole where he was doing OC nudes and has yet to make a decent meme format in a decade.
Pizzacake could be better but I don’t mind that she’s taking on nazi’s and right wing weirdos who can’t help but lose their shit over titties and even the gentlest of criticisms. And refer to the first paragraph but there isn’t a single reddit community I would take the word of at face value.
I get it. I don’t know if I necessarily agree with your take on her work though. I don’t think she’s taking on Nazis or the right… These particular comics can be read simply as is, but also as anyone who dares criticize her. In that case, you’re not just an asshole but an actual goose stepping, swastika waving Nazi. Even those who would agree with her, who are on her side politically.
I really suspect this is all a strategy, and it probably shows some success, to drive traffic to her only fans and adult tier patreon who’ll hate subscribe. I think that’s how she’s really making her money. The comics don’t pay squat, as we all know.
Read it again. It means everyone who disagrees with you or doesn’t like your look isn’t a Nazi, you can also be wrong and bad looking with probably equal or better probability. Especially if Lemmy is your barometer.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say there’s some weird projection happening here because there is no way whatsoever that has anything to do with unattractive entitled people. Words mean things, and you need to review what it is you’re trying to cpmmunicate here.
I will never understand why these profoundly mediocre comics get so much support.
Garfield took bigger risks than she does.
I don’t like Garfield comics.
What I don’t do, is comment on every Garfield comic that I see posted to whine that I don’t like Garfield. I don’t even feel a hint of desire to do that.
This is why people who see all the anti-Pizzacake comments on every one of her comics know that it’s not really about the comics. It’s people who are angry at seeing popular comic lady who self-inserts in many of her comics again and need to share that anger. It’s just kinda pathetic.
I’ll take a stab at explaining myself. I like them OK. I’ve never followed her or been inclined to reshare her work on social media, but I would describe crossing her work as “generally enjoyable”. I think a lot of her work, like the example here, is more of a slice-of-life anecdote about an experience she had, rendered in the medium of the comic strip. It doesn’t strike me as a joke, more like “Hey world, here’s a thing that happened and my brief reaction to it”. And I like it because I recognize the pattern and I feel sympathy for her. Nazis… overreact to things. Being extreme is kinda their signature move, and they seem to feel an obligation to be as unpleasant as possible to anyone being critical of them.
But, they almost always find other excuses to be shitty than “You criticize nazis and it hurts my feelings / makes me feel threatened, because I’m a nazi”. They find the easiest excuse they can to bother you with, except the actual reason they’re interacting in the first place. If they are harassing a woman, they have a standard variety pack of insults they can pull from. You’re a whore, you’re ugly, you’re shrill or some variant thereof, you’re pretending to be a lesbian because no man wants you, etc. I think the strategy is quantity over quality because nazi hatespam is remarkably consistent both in its volume and its unoriginality. It really does happen, and it is hurtful in a kind of “I can’t believe humans waste their short lives being this uncreatively shitty” sorta way as well as just being generally mentally taxing, and it’s nice to be able to commiserate over it. It’s not exactly “ha ha” funny, but it is relatable in a way I appreciate in art.
This one is structured rather like joke, in that the last panel could be interpreted as a punchline to the previous setup, but I didn’t read it that way and I don’t think the idea of reading it that way would have occurred to me if I weren’t analyzing it now. I can see how the last panel could be interpreted as an unfunny joke if that is what was being looked for. That’s my hypothesis about why this comic is being received poorly by some, but not all, of the people in this thread. Let me know if I’m right 🙂 or wrong lol.
Is yours better?
She needs to pick a dayof the week to hate to even dream of being on Garfield’s level.
Personally I think at the beginning thely were cute, funny, and at bare minimum I give bonus points to anyone starting out trying to do something rather than listen to di guses who think that there’s a hard baseline for content.
But I do think she became some sort of Reddit beast that got stuck in a flattery eddie off to the side of the R/ALL tributary and stopped getting meaningful criticism and it hurt a lot of her output and growth.
And yet she still has more talent and entertainment value then a bunch of slackjawed comment troglydites with the most incredibly iroic sense of mediocre.
Eh, she was there before the big reddit change over, and true she seemed like she could roll with the punches but that ended pretty fast. If you’re at all curious to look it up, it seems some of the artists in r/comics are getting a little tired of her, and are hesitantly more vocal about it.
I mean I’m not disagreeing. If anything I hate Reddit more for being a crushing echo chamber that takes people who might have a good thing going and turning them into steralized, nonfunctional content monsters.
I do think it’s a time will tell kind of thing. Even SrGrapho just sort of fell into a hole where he was doing OC nudes and has yet to make a decent meme format in a decade.
Pizzacake could be better but I don’t mind that she’s taking on nazi’s and right wing weirdos who can’t help but lose their shit over titties and even the gentlest of criticisms. And refer to the first paragraph but there isn’t a single reddit community I would take the word of at face value.
I get it. I don’t know if I necessarily agree with your take on her work though. I don’t think she’s taking on Nazis or the right… These particular comics can be read simply as is, but also as anyone who dares criticize her. In that case, you’re not just an asshole but an actual goose stepping, swastika waving Nazi. Even those who would agree with her, who are on her side politically.
I really suspect this is all a strategy, and it probably shows some success, to drive traffic to her only fans and adult tier patreon who’ll hate subscribe. I think that’s how she’s really making her money. The comics don’t pay squat, as we all know.
Found the nazi
No, I hate Nazis and Fascists and I agree.
I like the message, but the comic isn’t funny. She’s a talented artist, however. I give her that.
Not all comics need to be funny
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi.
My wife is a nazi? I knew it!
I’m sorry you had to find out this way.
And I was wondering why the shower is suddenly hermetically sealed.
You better buy a gas mask and tell her it’s just some kinky stuff you wanted to try.
Found the conventionally ugly and entitled person? Congrats.
What does this even mean?
I was too afraid to ask, because I also have a hard time at understanding
Read it again. It means everyone who disagrees with you or doesn’t like your look isn’t a Nazi, you can also be wrong and bad looking with probably equal or better probability. Especially if Lemmy is your barometer.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say there’s some weird projection happening here because there is no way whatsoever that has anything to do with unattractive entitled people. Words mean things, and you need to review what it is you’re trying to cpmmunicate here.
Cope