Not only do I know what a PS2 is, I know what a PS/2 is too.
Ohhh, I played soooo much PS/2. It was such a blast. Could do nearly anything. My fav game may have been Win95.
Only game I could seem to run was Driver.
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I’m old enough to have been an engineer of a pre-PS2 system. All I’m going to say.
Just rolling through here like “Do not cite the old firmware to me Witch. I was there when it was written.”
Ooh, was it the Colecovision‽ It’s the height of the art for me.
Coleco-crew represent!
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Have you actually used an IBM PS/2?
I learned to type on one.
If 3DO you are truly goated!
They said pre-PS2, so there was also Dreamcast, N64, PS1 in the years before.
But 3DO was a really neat device at the time. I remember standing in Service Merchandise watching the demo graphics play and wanting one sooooo much. Then the PlayStation came out a few months later and I feel like that was it.
Holy shit, Service Merchandise… Oof, I just aged another few decades remembering that store!
Don’t forget the Atari Jaguar. Pre-ps2 would also include all the sega systems, NES, SNES, NeoGeo, the older Ataris. Leaving commodore and Apple out because they were more PCs than consoles. I think that’s all of them but could be missing some rarer ones.
Jaguar, 3DO, and NeoGeo were like legends that in hindsight I’m glad I never got because they would have been disappointing most likely. None of them really blew up so only had a handful of games. Iirc most of the 3DO games were those live action ones that were more like choose your own adventure movies. Jaguar claimed to be 64bit but it was because of a technicality that was a bit of a stretch (something like it was capable of 64-bit math but it usually refers to the address width). NeoGeo was a system to play arcade games, so that might have been kinda cool, other than arcade games being the OG P2W platform because so many games were tuned to extract quarters rather than for fun.
There’s a retro games store I go to every now and then that fulfilled a childhood dream of seeing a sega genesis with both the sega CD (the bit above that might have applied to the 3DO definitely did apply to the Sega CD) and the 32x (which I think was decent but didn’t get popular).
The Sega CD might (this is more speculative than the rest so don’t take this as fact) have even caused the PS to exist because Sony and Nintendo were working on a joint console that was going to be CD based but then Nintendo backed out and made the N64 instead. Sony, not wanting to abandon the work entirely, then pivoted and just made their own console. It wouldn’t surprise me if the combination of Sega CD flopping plus their games not being very good and CDs adding annoying load time are what made Nintendo back out. It probably also helped Sony direct game markers towards better ideas than FMV.
Sega CD might have even caused the PS to exist because Sony and Nintendo were working on a joint console that was going to be CD based but then Nintendo backed out and made the N64 instead.
That’s Nintendo and Sony, Sega had nothing to do with this. There are known SNES-based PlayStation prototypes. Nintendo then turned around and bungled the deal, consequently invoking the biggest gaming brand into existence.
I meant the Sega CD’s performance and reception might have been a factor in Nintendo deciding they didn’t actually want to bring their project with Sony to market.
That said, I looked at the actual timeline and see that that speculation was incorrect as the Sega CD came out in December 1991 while Nintendo backed out of the deal in June of that year.
Hooooly fuck @ the story, too.
Sony had completed a prototype but were positioning themselves to gain control over licensing and distribution of the disc format they were using, which made Nintendo think they weren’t going for a partnership but full control.
So at the Consumer Electronics Show, Sony did a tech demo of their prototype. The very next day, Nintendo announced their partnership–with Philips, not Sony. This was the CD-I, another console I forgot about in my last comment (that also failed because of its focus on FMV games, including the only Zelda games for a non-Nintendo console).
Kinda interesting that this one story seems to contain both companies’ full gaming arcs. Sony wanting control over their software ecosystem but being hated for it, and Nintendo wanting to keep control and pulling surprise dick moves to do so. There were no good guys in that story.
Though back to the original point, it wouldn’t surprise me if the reception of all those initial disc-based consoles helped Sony steer away from shitty FMV games and make sure they had the great games library the PSX did have. But again this is just speculation that could also be based on an incorrect understanding of timing.
Check out also Psygnosis’ role in PS1. They had some superhits like ‘Lemmings’, were directly involved in the development of the console, ordered cheap dev kits for it instead of custom workstations, made ‘Wipeout’ which singlehandedly changed the audience of consoles from schoolkids to college students. Under Sony, they were the liaison with third-party developers and stayed semi-independent, publishing other people’s games. Until they were rewarded for all this in 2001 by being relegated to the ‘Wipeout’ and ‘Formula One’ series. (‘F1 '06’ was so goddamn hard that the player could straight up become a support driver and needed to do test laps and display consistency after that. But they lost the license to Codemasters the following year.)
Played it at my cousin’s as a kid. Some motorcycle game.
But I’ve also got an og TurboGrafx16
(drops to knees and bows down in engineer)
We are not worthy! But thank you for inspiring the next generation of us.
PS2…Pffft. I had a PlayStation. The indestructible grey box from the before times. I played Final Fantasy VII, Driver, Silent Hill, Tekken 3, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, and Grand Theft Auto. Unless the power was out, you could pop in a disc, read the booklet, and play to your heart’s content. Hell, if we are going to be talking old, how about playing Jeep Command or Pac-Man on the Commodore 64? I need to go back in my dusty coffin and have a nap. AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Your PS1 was indestructible? The optical drive on every one I’ve ever seen had some sort of significant issue.
My PS1 lasted for 10 years of heavy use, but it still wasn’t indestructible. That’s a term I reserve only for the Atari 2600. I dug mine (I actually own two) out of the ashes of my house that burnt down. Only the atari, a few carts (2600 and NES) and my doc martens survived that fire. Its hilarious that they still work.
edit: the irony is that the infamous E.T. game remained unscathed. You can’t kill pure evil.
It still ran when I gave it away a couple of years ago.
Played Tekken 3 with my friend and his brother on their PS.
Then we also played SW : RotS on our PS2.
The PS2 is still around somewhere, but its CD drive sensor is bad, so it doesn’t detect when it’s closed. And thus doesn’t read discs. That was long ago. I need to find it, I think I’m grown up enough to fix one sensor or find a replacement drive.
I suppose the old game CDs all have scratches too bad to play, so some tinkering is expected to make it work.
And while there was an officially supported Linux version for it, of what I’ve read about it, it wasn’t of much use even then and was an advertising move (if so, worked on my dad, I remember him mentioning that back then).
I still have one somewhere in the electronics graveyard
Come now, child, it’s time to commune with us, the deep ones. We who witnessed the 8088 and Apple II’s in the computer store, the Commodores, the Ataris, the Coleco visions, we who played Pong on the Atari Home Pong console.
These children haven’t even danced on a home DDR pad, settling for Nintendo and Microsoft’s weak tracking methods.
Pong was my first, in Germany. I was so excited. I miss those days.
Uh, I’m not sure what you mean by “settling for Nintendo’s weak tracking method”. There were home DDR pads for the Wii, I know that because I still have one.
The WII is 20 years old, they all had dancepads 20 years ago.
The only ones still running ddr have camera or motion controllers. dancepads are mostly dead tech
don’t be sad that you’re old enough to have played on a real life ps2, or even ps1-- be glad that 9/11, 2008, covid, and 2 diaperman potus terms aren’t the most significant core memories of your childhood
For real, I would feel like such a wizened sage if I was asked about the PS2 by some youngster!
What? I had a PS1 and PS2, and 9/11 is one of my earliest memories. ‘08 was also childhood suckery.
Covid + PedOTUS is a separate generation.
9/11 is my first memory that still has visuals attached to it because i vividly remember the room i was in when it was on tv. I own 3 ps2s as well
Growing up in Russia, my main exposure to 9/11 lore was that Tolkien’s “Two Towers” (and yes, I know that in fact LOTR is six volumes, not three, and three volumes are publisher’s decision to group them that stuck) in older adaptations was translated as, well, “two towers”, but in newer ones as “two fortresses”.
Because there was a lot of fashion to imitate being somehow connected to cultural and other events in the USA, that’s also how older Russian TV propaganda focused on “terrorists” concerning Chechnya, basically doubling in tone news about USA in this or that about Iraq and so on.
It also successfully managed to show the ruling party as modern and western enough, and its opponents as a bunch of some mad old people from another age, bandits, neo-Nazis and out-of-this-world communists. Well, in the specific period of 2000-2007.
Which is also interesting in the sense of popular memory - it might seem weird that the general population in Russia really doesn’t want anything from that emigrated opposition, well, because that’s the exact kind of people who were the face of that government in 2000-2007, as a countermeasure to people like Starovoitova (already killed by then, just trying to explain the cultural image) and Sakharov or even Novodvorskaya.
And said general population is of all kinds of opinions and levels of education, and some of those layers and groups might even agree with those murders, but those were politicians and journalists, and these are whores. Whores are not a very respected kind of people.
I mean, that peace-loving bunch of fairies mostly consists of people who supported “pacifying” of Chechnya in the 00s. I understand they don’t think that was a crime, well I do, so they can get fucked.
That’s why the emigrant Russian opposition is not very popular in Russia. Well, after 2022 some more important things have happened on scale.
EDIT: Wrong thread, went on a rant. Just was very strange to remember that what’s now the opposition and what’s now the bloodied regime were once the same cultural entity, mimicking USA in all the wrong things.
9/11 and COVID were 20 years apart my man
That’s one long childhood
Hey, I’m not finished yet!
yea. i made the comment with us 45+ yr old people in mind. my bad
I might be stupid but it still doesn’t make any sense to me
i’m old. when 9/11 happened i heard about it on the radio on the way to work. when the DJ mentioned it being passed on to him by his producer, he thought it was a joke or prank call. then the 2nd plane hit, and it wasn’t a joke. when i got to work we all went into the boardroom and watched the news for about an hour, then they cancelled the work day so everyone could go home and make phone calls
all that to say 9/11 wasn’t a “childhood” memory for me
Then PS1 and PS2 weren’t part of your childhood either right?
no. i got started with an atari. when i was in elementary school i had a famicom, which is the japanese version of the NES. PS1 came out when i was in high school
I still own my PS2 and it works
Same, i even modernized him, bought a MX4IO and a 64 mb elf memory cards, two wireless controllers and a HDMI Adaptor who is powered by his own USB port
That’s good, take care of it and enjoy it. My Dreamcast GD-Rom finally gave up last year, but some day I’ll replace it.
Same here… Over the years I even ended up with a modem and HDD for it. Great system.
For some reason I found a USB to ethernet network adaptor on my floor in my dorm room (no idea how it got there, just noticed it under the bed one day) at university and tried it with the PS2 I played using a TV in card for my PC and it just worked. Played some online Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 with it.
Contrast to today, where my PS5 supports Bluetooth but when I paired it with my Bluetooth headset, it didn’t recognize it and I’m sure that was deliberate to get people to buy Sony’s (or partners) headsets. Which is one of the reasons I probably won’t ever bother with a console again (though Sony has been generous and has provided me with plenty of reasons to not bother).
That’s just the way it is now. Humans used to go generations with minimal change. In this alien existence we’ve created things change drastically in just a decade or two. That said a lot of things still never change like human behavior or motivations. There’s still a lot of wisdom about life someone can gather and pass down as they see fit. As they say, the more things change the more they stay the same.
It’s hard to explain to young people how much the world changed just about 15 years ago, when the Smartphone was first released. That was an invention on par with the TV.
I’ll never forget the first moment in like 2010. I was out at the zoo, pulled out my phone and looked up a restaurant nearby instead of just going out and looking for one and then I was aware we were all fucked. Totally plugged in to the internet all the time anywhere anytime.
Hanging out with old people is fun anyway, I used to love doing that as a kid. Sat with them while they played bridge and learned a whole lot about life from them. Somehow I don’t think the boomers would be as kind to children nowadays, as a whole, but there’s still decent old folks left if you know where to look.
Seen a PS2 buddy, I still have a PS2. It’s chilling next to my TV collecting dust until I get the urge to play need for speed underground, cabelas outdoor adventures, 007 or sims 2 castaway again!
i have an maintain my PS2 for god of war and marvel vs Capcom 2
Do people actually toss away their stuff the moment an add for the next generation rolls out?
I grow up with a lot of technology much older that me because people still had it. Typically, a elderly house would have older stuff than people the age of my parent. I had new toys and stuffs from the last generation and plenty of older hand me down from older siblings and oncles.
It blows my mind to see some young people so uneducated about the very recent past. You didn’t live this time but the majority of the society in which you take part did. How could this be so exotic to you?
I still have every Nintendo console sold (except for game cube) starting at Nintendo - switch1. I lost the cube to an ex but the wii plays it’s games so
I’m am amateur musician who has gotten into recording over the last couple of years, and I’ve been buying old recording tech from 20 years ago for super cheap. I’m buying barely used gear that was hundreds of dollars (or more) when it was new, for less than $50. This is gear better than classic albums from the 70s and 80s were recorded on, and now it’s sitting on my desk. I’m having a blast.
My friend brought over his PS2 to play guitar hero last year. Im not even 30 what did the tiktok attention span do to the kids 😭
Seeing how old a youtube video is makes me feel older than this. Like I see 16y on a YouTube video I was watching literally 16 years ago and I feel old from that.
This though, it throws me into a nostalgia loop of man I do miss playing ps1 games on the ps2, spending time with my brother, buying accessories for it like the memory cards and the controllers with extra vibration or the ones with the fans in the handles. Man those were good times. Playing dbz budokai 2 and soul caliber 2. Awww man the THPS games were fuckin’ sick on that. The Matt Hoffman bike games!!!
Yea it was truly a legendary system.
recently i was chatting with some colleagues, i know i was the oldest, bit didn’t expect on how much oh a gap there is. so we talked about some topic and i asked, who still remembers the release of the starters prequels… the answer was that not a single one of them was alive at the time… that moment i grew even more gray…
Oof
I never really cared about history until I started recalling it as a lived experience, and I expect to stop when I no longer can.
My last console 😢
Me sad, me nostalgic
My consolences.
