He is either not a US American, or the “Never Forget” nation forgot to properly teach him.
Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.
he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught
see: forgot to properly teach him.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
but you can’t make it drink
For that, you’re gonna need a hose.
I’d say they made the attempt, but if he didn’t listen that much, the problem is them passing him, not attempting to teach him.
Ooh can confirm: Our coach taught us that nazi germany was communist and north korea killed more people than any civilization in history.
When I was in school all the coaches taught physical education
He doesn’t look that young. I can’t imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasn’t as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.
If he’s from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.
He doesn’t look that young.
Eh, 9/11 was ~25 years ago. And if we assume that a child under the age of, say, 5 wouldn’t be interested in such things and wouldn’t be exposed to it much, especially if not in the US … then someone could feasibly be up to 30 years old right now and have been too young to notice or care when 9/11 happened.
And I don’t know about your age standards … but this guy looks like he could easily be under 30.
I’m very squarely in that age bracket and it was hard to ignore 9/11 if you were at all exposed to any media. I can’t imagine anyone 25-30 managing to entirely ignore 9/11 even without teachers talking about it. Maybe someone with the absolute peak of sheltering could ignore it. But outside of that I can’t imagine anyone in the US 25-30 having no clue.
i’d say anyone under 35 wasn’t really aware for it.
Yeah, this is definitely wrong. My younger brothers are significantly younger than 35 right now, and they still remember where they were when it happened.
nonexistent?
2026-2001=25
36-25=11
11>0
🙄 Your math is bad. Read what they said closer
When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.
If you were to ask my teachers, American history goes revolutionary war, then nothing happens for awhile, then the civil war, then nothing happens for awhile, then WW1 had to happen so that we could have ourselves a WORLD WAR TWO! The four years that make up 9/10ths of American history. And then the Japanese signed the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri and then stuff I-the boomer history teacher-personally remember so it legally can’t be history.
It’s so great that the US single handedly won the only war that ever happened in Asia. Good thing there hasn’t been any major conflict on that side of the world since then.
It’s kinda clear how the curriculum was designed, after all according to this class Japan was only discovered in 1939. Russia pops in an out of existence, Korea and Vietnam are fictional and Africa is where Egypt is.
Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, that’s everything I learned in school too at that time.
But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I don’t think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.
Oh yeah. I was in high school when 9/11 happened.
On the drive between my house and the nearest significant town, there’s a house which has a small replica of the twin towers on their front lawn. One is labeled “never” and the other “forget.” They’re set at an angle from the road so you see first one, then the other. The first few times I drove up here I forgot (perhaps ironically) that they were there and thus was surprised to see the twin towers with “never” written on them.
In the opposite direction is a house on the intersection of three roads. I think the owner sells snowmobiles. In his front yard is a shipping container with snowmobiles in it. Atop the container sits a life sized Trump mannequin on a snowmobile giving a thumbs up to the main road. On the container “LAW + ORDER = :)” is spraypainted. Across the yard is a shed with “WAKE UP!” spraypainted on it.
The former, fine. The latter - no matter your politics, and I’m certainly not intentionality expressing mine here - seems a bit excessive.
Across the yard is a shed with “WAKE UP!” spraypainted on it.
But I thought they didn’t like “woke” stuff?
I quit my first real job on 9/11. I watched the buildings go down, walked into the deli I hated working at and said, “life is too short.” Which for an 18 year old me was a pretty big move.
I had a job in Colorado at a small 20-30 person company, including two devout muslim immigrant men from Afghanistan. OMG, they were freaking the fuck out, thinking people were going to come drag them out of the office and murder them in the parking lot. Everybody had their back and tried to calm them down, but boy, they were so stressed out.
Americans went nuts after 9/11. It was weird how all of a sudden, it was ok to be openly racist. Up to then, I knew older people were racist, but were being shamed into keeping quiet and it was fading from younger generations, but 9/11 set all that back. They were right to be scared.
Had a French teacher in high school who was from Morocco, and Muslim. He had some pretty harrowing stories from the years following 9/11. Said the harassment started immediately that day, before he had even seen the news.
The most extreme of them involved him and his family being targeted at home with a drive-by shooting. Said some of the rounds missed his daughter by inches right where she was sleeping.
There were several different attacks, and attempted attacks, which varied in the level of violence, but all were random acts of opportunity during otherwise hum-drum quotidien activities, like grocery shopping and pumping gas. Literal IRL terrorism, but the perpetrators were always white so… y’know.
He recounted the feeling of being hunted as urban prey by bat-guano crazy rednecks…chilling.
That vibe quieted down by the 2010s, but now it’s come roaring back. MAGA is like three 9/11s in a trench coat.
I mean, if they were in Texas they probably have a reason to worry
Not sure why you were downvoted. Looks like some people forgot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arab_racism
“In the United States, anti-Arab racism surged after the September 11 attacks, resulting in widespread racial profiling and hate crimes against Arab Americans.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arab_racism#United_States
“According to the FBI and Arab groups, the number of attacks against Arabs and Muslims, as well as others mistaken for them, rose considerably after the 9/11 attacks. Hate crimes against people of Middle Eastern origin or descent increased from 354 attacks in 2000, to 1,501 attacks in 2001. Among the victims of the backlash was a Middle Eastern man in Houston, Texas who was shot and wounded after an assailant accused him of “blowing up the country”, and four immigrants shot and killed by a man named Larme Price, who confessed to killing them as revenge for the September 11 attacks.”
Thank you!
they still had cause to worry in Colorado. people were fucking crazy
I only know Seven Eleven. Had no idea they had competitors.
Wait till you hear about Seven Twelve.
Well, at least I made a lot of money on OT with that one…
But what about 6 7
Why, what happened on the 9th of November?
I dunno, but remember, remember the fifth of November.
Plenty of things in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_November_in_German_history
Ah yes, I remember the wall in 1989
“Why’s it called 9/11 if it happened in September though?”
It’s named after their emergency number. Lots of people dialed 911 that day.
No, there used to be 9/11 buildings there. Don’t know about the two missing ones. Two buildings were attackes. Now there’s 7/11
Noo, you see, there where 11 buildings and after the 2 towers got taken down, there where now 9/11 buildings!
I’ve just barely survived a date format discussion and this is the first comment I read after. God dammit
Should we double check, and make sure he knows what Pearl Harbor was? And Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? And the Holocaust?
What? It’s not unreasonable to say he may have missed some key moments in history.
I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
Since I’ve come back from India I’ve sort of just been waiting to hear about an environmental disaster there. This makes sense.
Wdym
They burn plastic, Modi is killing/jailing climate change activists, and literally every single waterway I saw was choked with plastic. Every single animal I saw looked like it was on deaths door, aside from young animals - they didn’t look much better.
All in all, India is one of the most depressing places I’ve ever had the displeasure of visiting. Any change the west tries to make regarding the climate will be instantly wiped out by a country like India. I would call the whole country an environmental catastrophe if it weren’t for places like Kerala, which if I’m not mistaken is also just fucked now.
Did meeting great people and eating delicious food at least mean it wasn’t all bad?
a new environmental disaster or one of the usuals
Every single waterway was choked with plastic. Genuinely depressing.
The first 3 are American, I could see a foreigner not knowing. My sister is a teacher in Europe and she says none of her students knew about the Holocaust. These are teenagers. I think maybe we might be fucked as a species.
Not as a species, just as workers under capitalism
a teacher in Europe
…like, all of it?
But more to the point, I call bullshit. I cannot think of a country in Europe where the Holocaust is not well known.
I really hope she was bullshitting me but she seemed serious. This is in Bulgaria.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are in Japan?
It was an American attack, American history goes into much more detail about it than across the pond.
America attacked Pearl Harbor?
Pearl Harbor was an inside job
Uhhhhhh, I wouldn’t classify Hiroshima and Nagasake as “Disasters in American history”.
I’d say they are “Disasters in Japanese history”.
Naninjing, dresden, tokio bombing, pol pot… there is no shortage of atrocicites.
Like lots of muricans forget about minsk and go neanerthal about russia. Happens a lot
To be fair 9/11 is probably going to be forgotten about way sooner
It’s not too relevant for a school history lesson because it didn’t have too many consequences except for the Iraq war
The whole TSA security theater in airports came about because of 9/11. Air travel was much different before that, just walk through a simple metal detector and anyone can go all the way up to the gate to greet or send off your traveling friend/family.
uncomfortable afghanistan noises
So thing about history, too recent history isn’t taught. Because the system is made around your parents teaching you what they went through.
I would like to offer some perspective to the Americans upset the world doesn’t revolve around them. And share a terrorist act from my country, that I know you lot won’t know about.
But most of you lot celebrate the party that did it so, maybe it won’t land well.
I think this is a fair way to look at it. I don’t watch the news much so I don’t know what goes on in other countries either
Omagh Bombing.
Bit of stretch to say “most Americans” celebrate the IRA. I do understand the IRA is memed in Libertarian gun culture.
The Omagh bombing showcases how indiscriminate violence is fucking horrible, in both how it affects so many people and turns many more against your cause.
On this platform I have seen so many Americans try and justify incidents like the Omagh bombing and the actions of the various IRA groups in general.
Even now. You just had to include the “turns many more against your cause.” As a closing argument.
Rather than just leave it at “innocent people dying is a bad thing”.
“Most” Americans don’t celebrate the IRA. Most Americans don’t even know what the IRA is other than a retirement account.
The ones that do know generally support the UK in that whole mess. The IRA is literally a designated terrorist group in the US.
Never forget 1973/9/11!
Poor Chile! They didnt deserve that one. Cant say the same about to the U.S though.
Disclaimer: am not American nor Western
I remember this day. Was a wee lad. We were on vacation. The TV was on and apparently it was the news. I don’t remember if it’s breaking news but it might not be, since we’re 12 ish hours different time zones, and I remember seeing it at day time.
Well, back then I thought it was a movie…
And the eerie part was that my dad had just gotten back home from a business trip there just a few days before.
The equivalent would be someone in 2001 not knowing something that happened in 1976.
We landed on the moon!
Is that a hotel front desk?
Remember remember the 11th of September… wait that doesn’t sound right
Did ya tell him how much people went in circles trying to explain who did it but it was really territorial control and we kept switching who did it and then killed Osama bin Laden as a world distraction.
If you want to tell our response to it through comedy, I suggest the Seanbaby article The Nation that Freaked Out http://www.seanbaby.com/news/terrorism.htm
Well, I was in the third grade when 9/11 happened, and there was never any kind of formal education about it, because we had all experienced. Kids a just a few years younger than me would t remember it at all, but likely still wouldn’t have learned about it in school yet. That’s probably where this guy falls
I had to do a bunch of my own learning about the gulf war. Similarly, it happened before I was born but recent enough that history teachers didn’t consider it history. I now think it set the stage for a lot of the US geopolitically and I really should’ve learned about it in school.
