• MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayOP
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    1 month ago

    And i am not saying that stealing is morally good in all cases.

    Okay, in which cases would you say that stealing is morally good?

    Please be as precise as possible. This is very important.

    • your_dead_pet_goldfish@lemmy.world
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      This is my last response to you because you are disingenuous and I’m tired of writing the same things again and again. If you are sick and starving and the society that you belong to refuses to effectively aid you I would argue it is morally good to steal from companies that create and perpetuate the systems of oppression. This is not a hard thought experiment. It is the same as saying there are times where it is morally right to lie. You once again refuse to actually engage with the core of my argument. Your ideas have no substance and your analysis of these situations is elementary to the point that I think I may be arguing with a teenager. I’m done, bye.

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        1 month ago

        Why am I disingenuous? Were you or were you not making the case that theft could sometimes be considered morally good?

        I find it more disingenuous of you to try and just brush over that by asking me to engage with a completely different argument about the system being the problem.

        The system does not care if you steal from it. As you said yourself, the CEO of the supermarket does not pay for the losses out of his own pocket. He’ll just raise prices or lock things up behind glass so that ultimately, we’re ALL paying for it. Your so-called “charity” ends up costing everyone.

        Like, have you considered that there may be elderly ladies on fixed incomes that also need to buy toiletry items and cannot afford paying extra price increases just because you decided it was okay to let someone else steal?

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      There was a comic on here a while back that had a hungry guy walk up to the grocer and ask for a job. The grocer said no. Then he asked for food and the grocer said no. So he took the food.

      If you can’t get what you need to survive using the social system (unfortunately it’s currently poorly regulated crony capitalism), and you can’t get what you need through charity, then you TAKE what you need to survive.

      Any system that lets you die when you were willing to work is a failed system.

      • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayOP
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        1 month ago

        There are currently several comics on here that feature talking animals. That proves talking animals are real.