I don’t know that they’re going to worry about rounding people up. It’s enough for most people to make them too scared to think. Drone strike a protest on American soil and that’ll break the will of a lot of people. Of course, it will also embolden resistance, but then that’s exactly what he wants. If he can get the most serious resistors to huddle up where he can take them out with tactical units and scare the rest into hiding, he wins.
People keep falling into the trap of thinking he’s the one doing any of this. He just wants money and fucking trophies. Yarvin and Thiel are taking advantage of the bullshit machine to built their techno feudal wet dream.
If someone tries to arrest me or someone I care about and throw them in jail for a belief they hold or something they said then yes I will go down shooting whoever is trying to.
Sounds like you get your self esteem from being condescending on the internet
When the options are a) possible suicide by ICE or b) freely allowing your wife and/or daughter to be whisked away to Little St James never to be seen alive again, I’m taking option A 11 out of 10 times. No one is taking my family away to some blacksite unless they do it over my literal corpse. You’ll have to kill me first. End of story.
If you don’t agree, go ahead and get a divorce and move out right now because you don’t deserve that family.
your wife and/or daughter to be whisked away to Little St James never to be seen alive again
This only happens in movies. You seem to be imagining some kind of apocalyptic leftist purge.
At the moment your family is “detained” you quite simply do not know what the outcome is going to be. Are they just going to be interviewed, and released in an hour, or are they never going to be seen alive again. A violent confrontation, no matter the outcome, dramatically increases the likelihood of the latter.
Sometimes caring for people means considering their well-being before your own ego.
If you don’t agree, god help anyone you ever “care for”.
When the government sends the military to round up die juden the commies they dream of standing their ground with the gun they bought last week against a team of well equipped motivated professionals. Only to die heroically and have their family raped and killed in retribution anyway.
It’ll happen the same way it did a hundred years ago.
Nothing to do with being too online or military larping. They’re already killing innocent people in the streets with impunity. Escalation isn’t going to make that any better. Being armed isn’t going to stop them either. It isn’t about stopping them. It’s about making it cost them. It’s your choice if you want to be kidnapped, beaten, starved, and even killed peacefully. Its shameful that its gotten this far even. Personally, if they’re going to do that to me, I’d like to make it hard for them.
You say that, and I don’t strictly disagree. But that hasn’t saved the unarmed people from being killed yet. In fact they’re the only ones that have. Make of that what you will.
No it isn’t. The core of his argument is that fascism is here and it will not be stopped without violence. Historically speaking, he’s right. Arming yourself in anticipation of an inevitable conflict that will come for you (unless you’re the whiteright kind of people) is only prudent.
1 exception doesn’t dismantle the argument. Way more than Alex have been brutalized and killed. And that’s the point. Listen, if you don’t want to arm it’s your choice. It just isn’t going to guarantee your safety.
Who are you planning on shooting?
The police? Your neighbors? The Army?
It sounds like you learned your survival skills from a bad video game.
If it gets to the point where left wing people are genuinely being rounded up, and there are no other options left, then being armed at worst lets us make the round up more costly in a last stand, or hopefully if there has been enough community building beforehand, helps us more effectively prevent a round up from occurring..
It would also help for a French resistance or Irish Troubles style long-term push-back.
I don’t know that they’re going to worry about rounding people up. It’s enough for most people to make them too scared to think. Drone strike a protest on American soil and that’ll break the will of a lot of people. Of course, it will also embolden resistance, but then that’s exactly what he wants. If he can get the most serious resistors to huddle up where he can take them out with tactical units and scare the rest into hiding, he wins.
There is no “he”, its a “them.”
And FWIW, Trump is not even part of them. He is just a loud stooge distraction.
People keep falling into the trap of thinking he’s the one doing any of this. He just wants money and fucking trophies. Yarvin and Thiel are taking advantage of the bullshit machine to built their techno feudal wet dream.
If someone tries to arrest me or someone I care about and throw them in jail for a belief they hold or something they said then yes I will go down shooting whoever is trying to.
Sounds like you get your self esteem from being condescending on the internet
Have a bad day!
This is a really unusual position to take.
As a husband and father the idea of committing suicide-by-ICE on ideological grounds is an absurd proposition.
Obviously there will always be more opportunities to secure better outcomes for the people I care about if I’m not dead.
Nah, it isn’t.
When the options are a) possible suicide by ICE or b) freely allowing your wife and/or daughter to be whisked away to Little St James never to be seen alive again, I’m taking option A 11 out of 10 times. No one is taking my family away to some blacksite unless they do it over my literal corpse. You’ll have to kill me first. End of story.
If you don’t agree, go ahead and get a divorce and move out right now because you don’t deserve that family.
That’s the thing though…
This only happens in movies. You seem to be imagining some kind of apocalyptic leftist purge.
At the moment your family is “detained” you quite simply do not know what the outcome is going to be. Are they just going to be interviewed, and released in an hour, or are they never going to be seen alive again. A violent confrontation, no matter the outcome, dramatically increases the likelihood of the latter.
Sometimes caring for people means considering their well-being before your own ego.
If you don’t agree, god help anyone you ever “care for”.
They have been doing EXACTLY this scenario to all kinds of people who are even remotely “Mexican” for over a year and a half now.
People just… dissappear. They were “illegals”. Then there is no paper work and sometimes they shipped off to fuck knows where.
You have a source for that? Women and daughters being abducted from their husbands and fathers and never heard from again?
Relevant user name
It’s the American hero complex.
When the government sends the military to round up
die judenthe commies they dream of standing their ground with the gun they bought last week against a team of well equipped motivated professionals. Only to die heroically and have their family raped and killed in retribution anyway.It’ll happen the same way it did a hundred years ago.
ICE are not motivated professionals. They are well armed dipshits. Cowards by definition.
It won’t just be ICE.
Constructing a domestic “terrorist” enemy is a prelude to deployment of the military, or national guard, or whatever. They are professionals.
It’s so weird.
Ah the good old American loud mouth blustering.
Is your plan to give up?
The idea is to make it costly to round people up.
Just an outside observer, but it seems they’ve been already rounding people up and the armed ones were shot and then blamed for having guns on them.
Sounds like you are paying attention to our billionaire-approved media. Thats what they want.
See the bootlicker engaging in its namesake behavior.
Yeah that’s a bunch pf terminally online leftists here LARPing militia badasses and it’s almost laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Nothing to do with being too online or military larping. They’re already killing innocent people in the streets with impunity. Escalation isn’t going to make that any better. Being armed isn’t going to stop them either. It isn’t about stopping them. It’s about making it cost them. It’s your choice if you want to be kidnapped, beaten, starved, and even killed peacefully. Its shameful that its gotten this far even. Personally, if they’re going to do that to me, I’d like to make it hard for them.
Owning a gun increases your chance of being shot much less whatever you’re advocating for here.
You say that, and I don’t strictly disagree. But that hasn’t saved the unarmed people from being killed yet. In fact they’re the only ones that have. Make of that what you will.
You’re forgetting about Alex Pretti.
Fair, and true. I still stand by it though.
But the core of your argument is basically dismantled.
How can you still stand by it?
No it isn’t. The core of his argument is that fascism is here and it will not be stopped without violence. Historically speaking, he’s right. Arming yourself in anticipation of an inevitable conflict that will come for you (unless you’re the
whiteright kind of people) is only prudent.1 exception doesn’t dismantle the argument. Way more than Alex have been brutalized and killed. And that’s the point. Listen, if you don’t want to arm it’s your choice. It just isn’t going to guarantee your safety.
You and I are both getting downvoted to oblivion, which kind of proves the point.