• fizzle@quokk.au
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    4 days ago

    This is a really unusual position to take.

    As a husband and father the idea of committing suicide-by-ICE on ideological grounds is an absurd proposition.

    Obviously there will always be more opportunities to secure better outcomes for the people I care about if I’m not dead.

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      Nah, it isn’t.

      When the options are a) possible suicide by ICE or b) freely allowing your wife and/or daughter to be whisked away to Little St James never to be seen alive again, I’m taking option A 11 out of 10 times. No one is taking my family away to some blacksite unless they do it over my literal corpse. You’ll have to kill me first. End of story.

      If you don’t agree, go ahead and get a divorce and move out right now because you don’t deserve that family.

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        That’s the thing though…

        your wife and/or daughter to be whisked away to Little St James never to be seen alive again

        This only happens in movies. You seem to be imagining some kind of apocalyptic leftist purge.

        At the moment your family is “detained” you quite simply do not know what the outcome is going to be. Are they just going to be interviewed, and released in an hour, or are they never going to be seen alive again. A violent confrontation, no matter the outcome, dramatically increases the likelihood of the latter.

        Sometimes caring for people means considering their well-being before your own ego.

        If you don’t agree, god help anyone you ever “care for”.

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          They have been doing EXACTLY this scenario to all kinds of people who are even remotely “Mexican” for over a year and a half now.

          People just… dissappear. They were “illegals”. Then there is no paper work and sometimes they shipped off to fuck knows where.

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            4 days ago

            You have a source for that? Women and daughters being abducted from their husbands and fathers and never heard from again?

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      It’s the American hero complex.

      When the government sends the military to round up die juden the commies they dream of standing their ground with the gun they bought last week against a team of well equipped motivated professionals. Only to die heroically and have their family raped and killed in retribution anyway.

      It’ll happen the same way it did a hundred years ago.

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          It won’t just be ICE.

          Constructing a domestic “terrorist” enemy is a prelude to deployment of the military, or national guard, or whatever. They are professionals.