• grinning_serpent@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    It’s weird that we don’t really have any laws to handle this sort of thing.

    How long do you think a Democrat would be allowed to play corpse before the GOP would start screaming about replacing them?

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      Often when there are no laws about something it’s because most of the key laws of the US were set down 250 years ago when modern communication tech didn’t exist, people travelled by horseback, etc.

      But, you would think that a procedure to determine if a key member of the government were alive or not would have been even more important 250 years ago. Back when legislators had to travel by horse across rural areas that were unlit at night, it must have been relatively normal for someone to just disappear. Maybe they’d get waylaid by bandits. Maybe attacked by wildlife. Maybe kicked in the head by their horse. Maybe caught in a flash flood.

      OTOH, maybe back then “just wait until the next election, even if it’s 6 years away” would have been considered reasonable.

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        People are joking about it with McConnell but if Trump dies I genuinely think they will just “weekend at Bernie’s” him through the next two years.

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          Genuinely worried that they’ll dress up some 40 year old to look like him, and say that Elon’s med-bed rejuvinated his body. Christians will declare it the second coming of Trump and make him King of all Christiandom. The rest of all of our lives will be a world war led by religious nuts to bring the word of DJT to world.

          I mean our SecDef has a crusader cross tatoo.

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    Aw, he dead. CPR cracked his ribs like dry spaghetti. They just don’t want the special election.

    So much for respecting elders or the dead. Glory to the cause or some bullshit.

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      Also celebrities, to a lesser extent. They are also public figures that chose to be public figures. I will agree the paparazzi should be stalking politicians the way they do celebrities, and vice versa.

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        The difference to me is celebrities are making art that you are free to ignore at will with virtually zero real impact on your life. Politicians CANNOT be ignored because the things they do most certainly WILL impact our lives regardless of whether you ignore them. Therefore it is imperative that we keep tabs on them.

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        No. Celebrities don’t always ask to become famous. And people should be able to make art without being public figures.

        Politicians are public figures by definition. They constantly campaign to remain in public consciousness. And they’re supposed to represent us. They have up their right to privacy as soon as they ran for office.

        Paparazzi are scum, though. There’s a reason we don’t call them journalists.

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          Rick Moranis, Bo Burnham, and multiple other short lived celebrities put lie to your first point. They may not have intended to blow up to celebrity status, but once they are there they decide if they want to keep it or not. Most of them decide that the intrusion into their lives is worth the money. Artists are pretty much always allowed to give up their fame, at the cost of ridiculous sums of money that many celebrities don’t need.

          Paparazzi are the inevitable consequence of monetizing fame. The individuals are just trying to make a buck, legally inside the system that refuses to pay anyone except for the celebrities and public figures, the system is scum.

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            Even Ryan Reynolds came out at one point and said something along the lines of “well if you don’t want to be a target for the tabloids…stop going to the places you know they are at, works pretty good for me”

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            You’re missing the point. Actors and musicians don’t want to represent the public. But that’s literally the only thing politicians are supposed to do. Their personal lives have a huge influence on society.

            People who want to delve into the lives of celebrities are parasocial weirdos. People who delve into the lives of politicians are journalists.

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            I don’t understand what you’ve written for the first line - how does, for instance, Bo Burnham put “lie” to the idea that celebrities don’t ask for it?

            Given the mercurial nature of the public, I’d almost argue that “celebrities” (or possibly influencers) have no actual control over their popularity, and unlike politicians aren’t necessarily looking to control what you do in your life… So are probably a bit different.

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              Where’s Bo Burnham? He’s not in any spotlight. Him, Rick Moranis and probably a whole list of people I can’t remember right now show that they can walk out of the spotlight and be normal people whenever they want to. Most of them like the money more than the inconvenience.

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                I’d argue that it’s more than just fame or celebrity that drives the paparazzi and other celebrity gossip media. I think fame modified by age plus the possibility of a scandalous situation is what drives it.

                The paparazzi targets actors because the range of “scandals” they can become entangled in. There’s not much scandal to document and sell about an older comedic actor who chose to retire from acting to raise a family or a standup comic who chooses a private life for personal reasons.

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              Bo voluntarily left the spotlight and hasn’t put out anything in years. He’s pretty much done the same thing Moranis did. He seems to have decided money and fame weren’t worth it.

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                I mean, other than doing Inside (which was fantastic), acting in films like promising young woman, and producing a bunch of stuff - tours were something he stopped doing for mental health reasons, iirc…

                That said, I don’t know when you’re comparing this to.

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                  I’m comparing what he did before and including Inside, to what he’s done after. I had no clue he’s gone behind the scenes and into production, but that makes sense since he was apparently having panic attacks on stage.

                  After Inside, he just kinda went “poof,” as far as I could tell.

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          That would be funny as fuck, especially if the politicians have to go it alone the way the paparazzi do, but no, the inverse of that specific proposal, and paparazzi should stalk celebrities the way they currently stalk politicians, aka, barely.

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    Same people who think that a teenager should be subject to genital inspection before playing volleyball also think that a major government official should be given absolute protection from any inquiry.