• LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social
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    7zip is better anyway I don’t understand why people still use WinRar. Then again I don’t understand why people still use Windows either.

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      Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that’s just fine.

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        If i fill bottles with tap water and try to sell it to my neighbours then anyone still “supporting” me after 30 years is an idiot.

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          Bottles, time to bottle, and distribution are worth compensation

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            You’re right and if people are demanding your bottles then that means it is valuable at least to those people.

            Also this is how water bottle companies actually do stuff the store brands in USA of Purified water almost always say they’re from a public water supply.

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          This is not only a stupid comparison but you’ve missed the point entirely.

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      Or WinZip. I work for a company that literally has the licenses for every computer they own. Why? 7-zip is free.

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        I could think of stronger password protection options. Maybe some kind of UI. Maybe a way to certify creators of the zip so they can filter out malicious zips in emails. I dont know what WinZip offers but company compliance is a goldmine.

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          Yup. The ability or willingness of a software maker to remove or agree to an indemnification clause is sometimes of paramount importance for some organizations.

          It’s sank more than a few promising projects at my org.

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        Winzip, i think, is owned by Corel I think. Almost as evil as Adobe. In India over here a lot of small businesses use it and it is unaffordable for them to get such creative suites. Corel constantly sends notices to the ones using cracked copies and force them to buy it for 3 years to avoid legal damages.

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      I use it on occasion, since it will deflate 100+GB zip files much faster than 7zip will. (7z is single threaded for pkzips)

      It’s been more than a decade since I used it to compress anything though. LZMA2 rocks.

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        How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.

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          It’s heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.

          It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.

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      I’m glad you can have a Windows-free existence.

      Some things just don’t function well on Linux, but there are lots of us who are 99% Linux and don’t use Windows unless we have to.

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        I have to use a windows box when I initiate my Reolink security cameras as an example. Haven’t been about to figure out a way to do the initial setup on them without and I couldn’t get it to run on Linux. Honestly been less of a time consuming pain to just have a windows box with the software. It’s only plugged into the isolated LAN anyway so whatever.

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      Name recognition counts for something in the choice about helper apps.

      Sometimes venerable old utilities you know from back in the day are bought out and turned into malicious shit. I don’t discount that.

      However when you go looking for a little helper app for something simple, there’s an ocean of weird little offerings out there and many of them are malware.

      I’d rather roll the dice that a venerable old classic hasn’t been bought out. This fact is probably quite Google-able. As for the long list of other unzip utilities… how am I supposed to know? Reviews and ratings are all fake. Many Reddit recommendations are fake.

      Just saying this is one angle on why people might continue using really old tried and true programs.

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      Deleted Windows from every computer I ever owned.

      Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I’m qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn’t even find many that would at least let you use Mac.

      I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I’ll still dual boot of course but man, I’m really not happy about it.

      Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.

      It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS

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        Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.

        I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.

        As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by “outside distro directory”.

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        Preferred by who?
        Personally I’m not a fan of the ‘modern’ windows UI, lack of a menu bar, added sponsor button, lack of 32-bit support, lack of windows <10 support, or the fact that it’s an msix-installed ‘app’ rather than a normal program.