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    There are a few forms or levels of racism. There are people who really believe the narrative, some who question some of it, and others who are aware it’s bullshit but accept it because it benefits them or going against the narrative could be harmful for themselves. In short humans will craft whatever story they need to justify behavior they want without any concerns for logical consistency. You can see this behavior in racism now and of course many other aspects of society and human behavior. Humans are storytellers, more so than logical beings.

    Funny enough Benjamin Franklin has a short story on this. He as a vegetarian was lamenting his compatriots catching, killing, and cooking fish, listing all the reasons it’s immoral until he begins to smell the delicious fish and then starts writing about how maybe it’s not so bad, is fine, is even his god given right to eat the fish. The moral being humans can and will justify whatever they want to do. Also I’m aware of his own connection to slavery and inhumane practices.

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      And so the billionaires win again as we fight to justify not being assholes to one another.

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        Those in power want to maintain power which is much easier if the people are divided, particularly on subjects not involving the people in power.

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        Have you ever seen the movie Se7en with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman? I don’t know a single person who wouldn’t do what Brad Pitt did at the end of that movie. Not a single person. And I wouldn’t blame them either.

        Just the other day someone posted on here that their uncle died from covid after getting sucked into the alt-right pseudo-medicine rabbit hole. And the comments were all just vile shit like “I’m glad your dumbass uncle died” and “1 down only like 20 million to go”, “good riddance he deserved it” etc. And when I point out shit talking this guy for losing someone he loved is fucked up I get downvoted lol. We can’t even come together online, let alone in person.

        Whoever is running things know that we simply cannot get along, we cannot forgive each other, we cannot unite. It’s their greatest tool honestly. Could you forgive maga?

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          I wouldn’t forgive, but you could always give the veneer of forgiveness in order to get them on your side. It sounds machiavellian, but sometimes using cult tactics like love bombing against people who are susceptible to such tactics, as magats have shown to be susceptible to, is necessary for a better world. You don’t have to forgive them in your heart.

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          Hmmm…

          people and children in cages

          the bombing of civilians

          poisioning of natural ecosystems

          abject torture and abuse of the innocent

          nope. I’d think about it for a bit, though.

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          I don’t think I’d do what Brad Pitt did at the end of that movie, one-shot kill is far too kind and reasonable for the state of mind I’d be in.

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          Yeah, but they can create the conditions where altruism is a non beneficial trait that ultimately leads to your untimely end. The goal isn’t for them to personally intervene in people’s lives, just to create the conditions that are most desirable to maintain their own position.

          That’s why they’ve spent decades attacking the kindness of the working class. Turning the idea of charity into an insult, Christianity into prosperity Gospel, and being neighborly into an immigrant sympathizer. They want the lower class to idolize the same kind of disregard for empathy that made them rich to begin with.

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                  Yep, all you can do is your best. Just keep one foot in front of the other and you’ll eventually end up old and tired, but hopefully content and with a mostly clear conscience.

                  Things have always been more fucked up than the general public likes to acknowledge, but I do admit that I really feel for younger people. I’m middle aged and have seen a lot in my time, but it does seem like the kids are going to have an even tougher go at it than I did, which is saying a lot. At least I got to see the analog world, before the towers fell and America cranked the crazy to 11, a time before the end of history.

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          Don’t fuck billionaires. There needs to be an embargo on sex for billionaires.

          Imagine how drastically the world could change if they need to give away enough of their wealth to put them below $1B net worth before they can get laid again!

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            I often wonder if our broken and fucked up capitalistic world wouldn’t do a complete backflip into the dirt once all that wealth poured out into the hands of common folk.

            Like, it only “”“works”“” if the system itself is corrupt. The utilities, medicines and food the currency pays for are just as they are, there isn’t more because people have more money to buy it. Wouldn’t the result be everything inflating in price to insane heights?

            I’m not justifying billionares, hell no, just making sure all the people who want the dam to break know what to do with the water.

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              Wouldn’t the result be everything inflating in price to insane heights?

              I don’t think so. That’s a rationalization mainstream economists use for not fixing the system. They’ll say shit like “low unemployment rates are bad for the economy because if everyone has a job then they can all afford to spend money and that will cause inflation.” It’s complete bullshit based in a flawed idea of what makes an economy “healthy.”

              “Supply and Demand” is more dogma than science. We’ve seen time and again that it only holds true when the wealthy want it to hold true, when it benefits them. Otherwise they manipulate numbers and make them do whatever else they want to do.

              Would a total wealth redistribution cause some turbulence? Maybe at first, but not to the degree you fear. It would break through the corporate capture that allows them to keep prices artificially high

              More likely though, it will take a time of great turbulence and upheaval for that redistribution to occur; such as the coming bursting of the AI bubble compounded with the failure of the US dollar, the insolvency of the US government, and all the second- and third- order effects of that and bad governance…

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      If I remember correctly, mind you it’s been over two decades probably but the defining point at which he decides it’s okay to eat the fish is when he notices that the fish had been eating other fish when they fillayed it

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        Lol it’s probably been about as long for me since I read it. That sounds about right. It’s a good analogy though.

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        It’s just generally beneficial to be aware. Besides that, if you are interacting with someone who is bigoted in some way it’s useful to determine which type they are. If they are just sold to the narrative then it’s easier to open up their mind. If they are aware it’s bullshit that just benefits them then it’s pretty difficult.