“bOtH SiDes” what?
It’s not “reality-defying” to see the obvious flaws and criticize them.
Is one
party
(Conservative-Republican cough cough)
particularly trash at the moment? Yes.
The actions of the
Orange Teletubby
(Trump)
::: makes that very obviously clear. But you gotta be off your rocker if you think either party works in the best interest of the American people. Much like OS’s; every party has its flaws, that’s reality. Even the party that aligns with my views most closely has egregious flaws I despise and criticize harshly.
Criticism is the only way to get partys to recognize there issues and move past them.
We should not have to choose between two evils to run our country, unfortunately the voting system itself is proven to be utterly broken as shown by mathematical proofs. It will near always collapse into a 2 party system that breeds corruption were it’s near impossible for a 3rd party to challenge them. The system itself encourages selfishness and corrupt at a provably fundamental level. There is a way out of this mess too as shown by the mathematics, but implementing it now is a ridiculous challenge.
This is a post about conservative hysteria over homosexuality. Not everything has to be about how liberals betray communists, and right now and in the past there aren’t many communist regimes who give homosexual people freedom to love whoever they like, so this is one policy area where the liberals you hate so much got something right better than the authoritarians. So yeah, you can fuck off with your both sides crap on this issue.
I’m not communist and my comment has nothing to do with communism.
I’m anti-authoritarian 🤣
I’m a privacy and FLOSS advocate, you think I’d side with organizations, partys or countrys that seek to build a surveillance state? Foolish.
You realize there’s more partys than liberals/democrats and conservatives/republicans right? Newsflash I’m not either liberal nor conservative.
Always making assumptions…
You carefully avoided any mention of your actual politics, whilst telling me off for not knowing yours. I don’t know how you think in supposed to know.
I don’t hate liberals you clown
You have a funny way of showing it, and I’m no clown, thank you very much, I’m just pissed off that so many people BoTh SidEs stuff where there are real differences.
But if you don’t hate liberals, there’s even less need to dive in with your false equivalence between the two American parties over homosexuality, one of the few issues where they do differ substantially. If you have a brain, use it.
Apologies for not researching your whole post history, but I don’t see how that’s relevant anyway. If its no big deal, why the fuck are you spending so much time and effort defending it, arguing with people who pointed out your error?
Not actually spending that much time.
There’s no error, again, many are overthinking this whole damn thing.
It’s not about “equivalency”. Like I’ve already said, it’s not as deep as you think it is.
Just think of a party, insert it in the given place, and the statement most likely still works in one way or another. It’s that simple.
E.g. If socialists were capable of using logic, they wouldn’t be socialists. It’s just a versatile statement. It even works on libertarianism (which is closet to my own position); e.g., inconsistencies between ideals like individual rights and how some actors/coalitions actually behave, e.x. as in the context of libertarian partys unfortunate tendencies to perpetuate racism despite promoting human rights and individualism.
If you were capable of logic you wouldn’t be trying to argue you were right when it was pointed out to you that in this context, on this issue, you are wrong.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
The point has nothing to do with the context of the previous statement before it. It’s only about how the template applies. Digging too deep into it when the bedrock was surface lvl.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
How is libertarianism stupid? You’re literally using software made by people whose views closely overlap with libertarian ideology…
It’s fair to say real-world partys and their policies are stupid, sure. But beg to differ that the whole thing is.
Libertarianism isn’t automatically stupid; its emphasis on individual rights; right to privacy, ect. and freedom maps well onto values often found in FOSS : privacy, user control, and the ability to modify software.
What I find stupid is how some real-world groups/platforms apply those ideas (or betray them). That goes back to my original point about how the template applies to most American parties in one way or another.
If libertarian ideals (as practiced by coalitions/actors) were consistently reflected in coalition behavior, then we wouldn’t see X* behavior (e.g., tolerating/partnering with racism) and therefore libertarian-aligned parties in America wouldn’t produce those contradictions yet they do produce those contradictions; so, as the template implies to conclud, their not X* (libertarian).
“bOtH SiDes” what? It’s not “reality-defying” to see the obvious flaws and criticize them. Is one
party
(Conservative-Republican cough cough)
particularly trash at the moment? Yes. The actions of the
Orange Teletubby
(Trump) ::: makes that very obviously clear. But you gotta be off your rocker if you think either party works in the best interest of the American people. Much like OS’s; every party has its flaws, that’s reality. Even the party that aligns with my views most closely has egregious flaws I despise and criticize harshly. Criticism is the only way to get partys to recognize there issues and move past them. We should not have to choose between two evils to run our country, unfortunately the voting system itself is proven to be utterly broken as shown by mathematical proofs. It will near always collapse into a 2 party system that breeds corruption were it’s near impossible for a 3rd party to challenge them. The system itself encourages selfishness and corrupt at a provably fundamental level. There is a way out of this mess too as shown by the mathematics, but implementing it now is a ridiculous challenge.
This is a post about conservative hysteria over homosexuality. Not everything has to be about how liberals betray communists, and right now and in the past there aren’t many communist regimes who give homosexual people freedom to love whoever they like, so this is one policy area where the liberals you hate so much got something right better than the authoritarians. So yeah, you can fuck off with your both sides crap on this issue.
You carefully avoided any mention of your actual politics, whilst telling me off for not knowing yours. I don’t know how you think in supposed to know.
You have a funny way of showing it, and I’m no clown, thank you very much, I’m just pissed off that so many people BoTh SidEs stuff where there are real differences.
But if you don’t hate liberals, there’s even less need to dive in with your false equivalence between the two American parties over homosexuality, one of the few issues where they do differ substantially. If you have a brain, use it.
Bruh
Apologies for not researching your whole post history, but I don’t see how that’s relevant anyway. If its no big deal, why the fuck are you spending so much time and effort defending it, arguing with people who pointed out your error?
Not actually spending that much time.
There’s no error, again, many are overthinking this whole damn thing.
It’s not about “equivalency”. Like I’ve already said, it’s not as deep as you think it is. Just think of a party, insert it in the given place, and the statement most likely still works in one way or another. It’s that simple. E.g. If socialists were capable of using logic, they wouldn’t be socialists. It’s just a versatile statement. It even works on libertarianism (which is closet to my own position); e.g., inconsistencies between ideals like individual rights and how some actors/coalitions actually behave, e.x. as in the context of libertarian partys unfortunate tendencies to perpetuate racism despite promoting human rights and individualism.
If you were capable of logic you wouldn’t be trying to argue you were right when it was pointed out to you that in this context, on this issue, you are wrong.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
The point has nothing to do with the context of the previous statement before it. It’s only about how the template applies. Digging too deep into it when the bedrock was surface lvl.
How is libertarianism stupid? You’re literally using software made by people whose views closely overlap with libertarian ideology…
It’s fair to say real-world partys and their policies are stupid, sure. But beg to differ that the whole thing is.
Libertarianism isn’t automatically stupid; its emphasis on individual rights; right to privacy, ect. and freedom maps well onto values often found in FOSS : privacy, user control, and the ability to modify software.
What I find stupid is how some real-world groups/platforms apply those ideas (or betray them). That goes back to my original point about how the template applies to most American parties in one way or another.
If libertarian ideals (as practiced by coalitions/actors) were consistently reflected in coalition behavior, then we wouldn’t see X* behavior (e.g., tolerating/partnering with racism) and therefore libertarian-aligned parties in America wouldn’t produce those contradictions yet they do produce those contradictions; so, as the template implies to conclud, their not X* (libertarian).
Is that clear enough?