both of those things are distractions by MSM and AI bots from the actual things, BBB and epstein files which bothers trump and his pedo-buddies quite a bit. reddit and msms love to keep pushing whatever gaffes hes putting out.
BBB
The Better Business Bureau? Where’s that acronym bot…
It could also be the Big Beautiful Bill (aka Trump Tax Cuts)
Let’s see if this works. Democrats got us here by rigging the primaries against Bernie in 2016 and then approving the genocide in Palestine in 2023.
you can vote for bigger evil and be part of the problem too.
I don’t think this really counts as a Democrat/Neo-liberal forum really. You’ll find more in agreement probably than disagreement.
Depending on the time and day and mood, neoliberals do come in larger numbers and downvote to defend the DNC and chant the mantra “vote blue no matter who”, while refusing to learn the lessons for their repeated failures of defeating the orange pedophile who should be easy to defeat.
Well it is a .world community.
Whilst I have good reasons to believe at least one world admin is one of them, it’s my impression that the state actors mainly focus their attention in [email protected] and [email protected]
Yeah, but it’s still Lemmy.
Watch and learn:
Bernie would have been third term president we needed
BuT hE wAsN’t pOpUlAr!¡!¡!¡
He’s not popular to the committee filled with neoliberals and only allow neoliberals in the primary of course.
Dammit I upvoted. It’s not working here
I’m proud of you.
I’ll take “things that never happened” for 1000
In actuality that particular score was EA’s community team getting roasted for defending loot box bullshit.
Yeah, basically nobody talking about Iran or the strait or the slush fund amirite?
If you can’t hold at least this much in your mind at once it’s not our fault.
Yeah, they often get deleted before that value, and it’s not what I expected of the up-down vote system.
I’m currently banned from the news comm on lemmy.world because I repeated the allegations in an article about Biden that made Biden look bad.
Looking at your mod history, it wasn’t posting about Biden that got you banned. It was not sourcing the allegation then reposting it again (unsourced) after your comment was deleted.
Reposting remove content, mod abuse, misinformation. According to the community rules, you must supply supporting documents from reliable news sources
No. The Source WAS THE FUCKING ARTICLE I WAS POSTING UNDER. IT WAS THE POST. 10/10 ragebait. You literally made me start trying to develop new slurs for liberals based on your people’s inability to understand basic fucking context.
Where did it say what you claim?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/19/biden-recordings-release-bid-fail
Your claim:
He stole and hid classified documents for potentially years so he could write a book. Oh, he also has a 45 year career of corruption, is one of the most right-wing US presidents in US history, and massively enriched himself even more than you might expect from the crawling pile of corruption that is the typical senator.
Show me where in the article they allegede your accusations, and I’ll reverse the ban.
Cool, with this example nobody needs to read any additional comments to understand why a mod would ban you.
Removed by mod
Tankies, man. The fact you just went through my entire comment history just to downvote everything is why you guys are getting boycotted.
I will never understand Lemmy’s obsession with trying to make the left fight itself.
From my own viewpoint as somebody living in Europe but not in the UK (though I lived there for over a decade), there are a lot of people here from places like the US and the UK who think they’re Leftwing and yet are just parroting the slogans of the mainstream “supposedly left-of-center whilst in practice hard right” parties with authoritarian tendencies in those countries (Democrats in the US, New Labour in the UK).
People in countries with VERY to the Right Overtoon Windows have been deceived into thinking they’re leftwing all the while claiming (again and again, for decades) that leftwingers have an obligation to vote for Hard Neoliberals to stop the Fascists and looking at other human beings and them seeing first and foremost as members of identitarian groups based etnicity, gender or sexual orientation (the exact same perspective as the Fascists) who they claim should be treated differently from other groups whilst calling with no irony that their desired differentiated treatment based solely on etnicity, gender or sexual orientation is “positive” and “fighting for equality” even whilst avoiding the whole “for all without looking at skin color, gender or sexual orientation” Equality part of the real fight for Equality.
There are tons of infighting in the Left, but what we see here in Lemmy is mainly not that but rather liberals from Anglo-Saxon nations thinking they’re leftwingers and attacking actual leftwing ideas.
We can definitelly see some infighting between Communists, Socialists, Anarchists and Social Democrats in those places where hexbear hasn’t been blocked but the main supposedly leftwing “infighting” we see in Lemmy (especially in the lemmy.world communities) is right-of-center (neo)liberals from English-speaking countries vs people with policy preferences mainly fitting the Social Democrat spectrum who aren’t even ideological Social Democrats.
(All of this IMHO, of course)
Beautifully and articulately explained. Kudos.
I don’t think you’re totally wrong, but I think it’s a piss poor excuse to force in-fighting on the left. Those on the right have the same Overton window spread but they don’t seem to have any issue uniting to make everybody else miserable.
If you look at the Republicans in the US, they definitelly have internal fights - Trump might have temporarilly succeeded in getting them all to push in the same direction, but that’s the natural outcome of coming up with a formula for electoral success and is now breaking with all the shit that’s coming out about him and he is doing in his second term.
Ditto in countries with more Democratic voting structures and hence more the just 2 parties, were the center-Right is fighting with at least the Far-Right.
And by the way, in those countries with the Overton Window very much to the Right, those on the right by definition don’t have the same Overton spread since there’s a lot less room Rightwards from the center of it than there is leftwards.
I used to think there was less spread on the right too, that there was no way that they could push further right… then I learned about my people’s history as just one for instance. Please trust me on this, there is just as much room to the right of center as there is to the left and they always seem to be able to overcome their fights, hence how the Overton window got there in the first place.
Ooh that’s kinda just what the left is like in general. Some real no true scotsman type shit.
Lmao you think the dems are left?
Look at you holding up tradition lol
You know they’re a center right party, right?
Yes I do, but that’s not the point.
… If they’re right, they’re not left.
Even the most jaded neoliberal should be able to be honest enough with themselves to understand that the Democratic Party is a hodgepodge party of leftists and liberals.
It’s a hodgepodge party of liberals, which leftists sometimes feel pressured to side with because the only other viable party is marginally worse.
Look up “third-way politics”
Ah yep, there it is.
I bet you have to make L’s with both hands to figure out Left vs Right.
Your username is false advertising.
So is yours.
We’ve had this exact exchange already a week or two ago. Sorry about your short term memory loss.
Capitalism is right wing
ah yes the whole thing where there can only be one wrong thing at a time and multitasking is a lie. republican logic is at it again.
The problem is that the media (owned by the epstein class) also didn’t want to talk about those things. So the algae and UFC are perfect excuses to have something else to talk about that doesn’t really hurt trump.
It’s exactly what happens. The Epstein files are not being talked about much at all.
This has to be bait. Theres no fucking way you didn’t pick the transphobic billionaire property on purpose for this meme about purity tests.
Can you elaborate on how this meme is about purity tests?
It’s trying to say it’s impossible to complain about two things at once. I can be mad about a no bid contract to an unqualified pool man AND genocide in Palestine.
There is in fact a recognized political propaganda technique called “Flood The Zone”.
Looking at Top Today, for the last two days I’ve seen far more posts about the “pool affair” than any other subject, including way more impactful subjects such as the Iran War, and various of those highly upvoted posts are pretty infantile pisstakes.
It stinks of Flood The Zone. Even if it’s not, a lot of that shit is infantile tribalist point-“scoring” with the same level of maturity as when the far-right press was complaining about Obama wearing a tan suit.
The problem is not somebody pointing it out, the problem is that what is a comparativelly miniscule fuck up by the Trump administration (you know, the kid fuckers who are crashing the US Economy and fucking everybody else because they tough that going to War with Iran was a guaranteed win) has been turned into a circus and pretty much “the only show in town” - as I said, it stinks of Flood The Zone.
Oh. I thought it was obvious to everyone that Democrats don’t actually give a fuck about leftist issues so this went right over my head. Thanks for the explanation!
Hold up. Are you telling me Trump and the right are doing bad things aside from mismanaging a pool and holding a tacky event? That’s news to me! /s
Seriously though. Pick what you want if you’re going to highlight the corruption and ineptitude and inhumanity and all that; the goal is changing (admittedly, very stupid) minds and what works for some won’t work for others. If “look at what they did to our historical in monuments!” convinces some boomer moderate who’s all about tradition and history, go for it.
Funny idea: what if Republicans are making these ultimately inconsequential blunders to divert attention from the greater problems?
That said, the green pool and UFC are good meme template materials to use to raise awareness of said problems.
The whole sudden circus about this stinks of Flood The Zone.
If that is so then they are quite successful. Dems supporters are busy on green pond and WH Ufc while core problems like war, genocide, oligarchy, ICE, Epstein files have taken a backseat.
Have they, or has most of the media gone and talked about those new things and you’re also falling for news cycle bias?
The Press talking a lot about it doesn’t at all deny the possibility that this is a purposeful distraction since any succesful purposeful distraction would require the media to make a circus of it.
Flood The Zone is a real political strategy and it absolutelly relies on the Press picking it up and talking about it instead of whatever they were talking about before, leading to people subconsciously starting treating this new subject as more important and “the thing to be talking about” leading many to amplifying it in social media which is what we’ve seen here in Lemmy for the past 2 days.
(This probably stands out a lot for those of us here who are not in the US because the press elsewhere doesn’t at all talk about it, so the massive number of posts about a fucking pool in Washington in Lemmy just look like a sudden flood under blue skies with not a drop of rain, so with no actual reason, thus it feels made up rather than natural)
What the previous poster wrote and what you wrote about the attention that the media is giving this subject aren’t at all inconsistent with each other.
I don’t think this is true.
So… You want us to bring back covfefe?
The focus on dunking and scoring points with your bodies on social. You get to feel vindicated without anything having to change. Actually messy positive change would be a lot more uncomfortable for some.
