No matter how low it goes I’ll never understand how it isn’t zero. (As much as it should be zero, it unfortunately never will be. Well over a hundreds of years from now, I imagine right-wingers will romanticize Trump the same way they romanticize Reagan and the Civil War and… you know… Hitler.)
You need to understand that huge amounts of people don’t tune in to anything. And the methods to reach them are well dialed in by whoever reaches them.
Have you not been around old people in the last 30 years? That’s all they fucking watch. Then they listen to right wingers like Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity on the radio when they get in their car. It never ends. They are constantly bombarded by bullshit 24/7.
I am an old person. So when you say “they” you are absolutely wrong. Say “a lot” or “some” if you are interested in being closer to the truth at all. We are all bombarded with bullshit and it comes in many different forms from many different people. Maybe even you?
You don’t have to get into semantics about it. To young people like me who see it so often, it feels this way to us. It does not mean every old person does this obviously… I was exaggerating, but it doesn’t come out that way when writing. If I was saying this with my voice and put emphasis on it via cadence then you’d understand where I was coming from.
Yeah. I guess I need things carved in stone. I don’t like to make mental leaps as I’m usually wrong. I get your point though, even the bible and the constitution come down to interpretation.
I’ve asked them. Generally they turn it into a comparison of Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, or Obama. Or, rather, they turn it into the right-wing news outlets distorted funhouse mirror versions of those rivals. They may see that trump is bad, but in their eyes he’s not as bad as those “villains.”
Yeah, try explaining to them that Obama deported more people than Trump’s first term. They refuse to believe it regardless of the evidence you can provide. They just can’t accept that the Southern border wasn’t just completely open at that time.
Where I live, there are still Trump and MAGA flags all over the place. None have come down over the past year, and many are replaced with new ones as they fade. Nothing Trump has done has put a dent in his support among his most vocal supporters. This is further reflected in the campaigning among the GOP candidates in the recent primary election for the state governor’s position, where they’re basically in a competition to prove that they’re more like Trump than any of the other choices. It goes as far as one using “Fight Like Hell” (remember that one?) as a campaign slogan.
This is what baffles me the most - the effects of Trumps regime aren’t abstract - no, they are the very opposite, very tangible, to be felt by literally anyone. Like the most obvious thing should be the increase in gas prices, followed by the increase in groceries. Do those people have a) so much money that they simply don’t care or b) don’t have the mental capacity that all of this is directly because of Trump?
And what kinda jobs do those people have that they are not affected by the mass layoffs and hiring freezes?
Anytime something bad happens, they just say it’s because of some policy Biden did. It’s a simple copout that works for them. And if it’s not Bidens’s fault? Then it’s immigrants. Or poor people. Or trans people. Or Muslims… And on and on the cycle goes.
I agree that it’s not rational. I think it depends a lot on selective memory and compartmentalization. A recent comment on a local news story exemplifies this. Somebody claimed that gas prices being down from their post-Iran-attack peak proves (proves!) that Trump was right again. But they ignore several key facts, like prices are still higher than they were before the war, they’re still higher than they were at the end of the Biden presidency, and that the underlying issues exposed by the war have not been resolved and gas prices may still rise.
No matter how low it goes I’ll never understand how it isn’t zero. (As much as it should be zero, it unfortunately never will be. Well over a hundreds of years from now, I imagine right-wingers will romanticize Trump the same way they romanticize Reagan and the Civil War and… you know… Hitler.)
You need to understand that huge amounts of people don’t tune in to anything. And the methods to reach them are well dialed in by whoever reaches them.
Yep, keep in mind all the retired old fucks who watch literally nothing but fox on their channel tv
Yeah. All of them. Every single one. This guy knows. /s
Have you not been around old people in the last 30 years? That’s all they fucking watch. Then they listen to right wingers like Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity on the radio when they get in their car. It never ends. They are constantly bombarded by bullshit 24/7.
Hey, you know my dad?
Yes and his many clones
I’m old. I never watch Fox, or listen to Beck or Hannity.
Nor do any American friends my age.
Over-generalize much?
Yeah so? I am just generalizing from what I see in my anecdotal life. Yours is the exception not the rule.
I am an old person. So when you say “they” you are absolutely wrong. Say “a lot” or “some” if you are interested in being closer to the truth at all. We are all bombarded with bullshit and it comes in many different forms from many different people. Maybe even you?
You don’t have to get into semantics about it. To young people like me who see it so often, it feels this way to us. It does not mean every old person does this obviously… I was exaggerating, but it doesn’t come out that way when writing. If I was saying this with my voice and put emphasis on it via cadence then you’d understand where I was coming from.
There is more than one way to read *all of the retired old fucks".
You seem to have read it as meaning that “all old people watch that crap.”
I read it as, there are old people, look at the subset of them who watch that crap.
Yeah. I guess I need things carved in stone. I don’t like to make mental leaps as I’m usually wrong. I get your point though, even the bible and the constitution come down to interpretation.
I’ve asked them. Generally they turn it into a comparison of Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, or Obama. Or, rather, they turn it into the right-wing news outlets distorted funhouse mirror versions of those rivals. They may see that trump is bad, but in their eyes he’s not as bad as those “villains.”
Yeah, try explaining to them that Obama deported more people than Trump’s first term. They refuse to believe it regardless of the evidence you can provide. They just can’t accept that the Southern border wasn’t just completely open at that time.
Where I live, there are still Trump and MAGA flags all over the place. None have come down over the past year, and many are replaced with new ones as they fade. Nothing Trump has done has put a dent in his support among his most vocal supporters. This is further reflected in the campaigning among the GOP candidates in the recent primary election for the state governor’s position, where they’re basically in a competition to prove that they’re more like Trump than any of the other choices. It goes as far as one using “Fight Like Hell” (remember that one?) as a campaign slogan.
There’s no hope for some people.
This is what baffles me the most - the effects of Trumps regime aren’t abstract - no, they are the very opposite, very tangible, to be felt by literally anyone. Like the most obvious thing should be the increase in gas prices, followed by the increase in groceries. Do those people have a) so much money that they simply don’t care or b) don’t have the mental capacity that all of this is directly because of Trump? And what kinda jobs do those people have that they are not affected by the mass layoffs and hiring freezes?
Anytime something bad happens, they just say it’s because of some policy Biden did. It’s a simple copout that works for them. And if it’s not Bidens’s fault? Then it’s immigrants. Or poor people. Or trans people. Or Muslims… And on and on the cycle goes.
I agree that it’s not rational. I think it depends a lot on selective memory and compartmentalization. A recent comment on a local news story exemplifies this. Somebody claimed that gas prices being down from their post-Iran-attack peak proves (proves!) that Trump was right again. But they ignore several key facts, like prices are still higher than they were before the war, they’re still higher than they were at the end of the Biden presidency, and that the underlying issues exposed by the war have not been resolved and gas prices may still rise.
The biggest single lever to reduce gas prices is almost certainly moving to electric.
If MAGA was smart enough to convince 90% of folks to switch, the last holdouts on gasoline would have the whole supply to themselves.
But we’re not dealing with a bunch of stable geniuses here.
Evangelical Christians, mostly.