• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Oh, Kamala is better than Trump. barely. She’s as useful as a wet noodle, and wet noodles are more useful and better than Trump. So of course she’s better than Trump. Anyone who argues otherwise is a moron. But anyone who argues she’s better than any other free market advocating, NATO loving, Israel supporting liberal is also a moron. Leftists do not advocate for free markets, NATO, or Israel.

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        It depends on what scales we’re talking about. I don’t like liberalism. I think liberalism is a stepping stone that will be left behind soon enough. On the scale I’m talking about, any liberal is barely better than a fascist because history has shown time and time again: Republics turn into fascistic dictatorships. It happened to every republic ever since Rome happened.

        I would like to move beyond the cycle of Republic -> Empire -> Republic -> Empire we seem to be in. Liberalism and universalism is the one thing that changed since the holy roman empire fell, but it’s not enough obviously. There has to be something more than liberalism, and I think it’s socialism and collectivism. That’s just me though. Liberals are barely better than fascists because they beget fascists.

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      Nobody ever argues that they’re the same. Someone points out that neither is all that great, which is accurate, and a dozen idiots come out of the woodwork to shout “both sides!” at them. I suppose you want people to pretend that one of them is good, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

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          Unfortunately, one cannot credibly run for president on a platform of “the other guy is a Nazi” after your side spent the last four years clearly showing that you don’t consider your opponents to be Nazis.

          Biden either didn’t think Trump was a Nazi, or he didn’t care. You don’t slow-walk the prosecution of people you believe to literally e Nazis. Biden should have had Trump sitting in a military jail cell within 24 hours of being sworn in. They should have rounded him up and found a justification for it later. That’s how you’re supposed to deal with Nazis.

          Why should anyone believe you when your actions do not match your words?

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            Who the fuck cares?

            One WILL be in control. That WILL happen.

            Only a moron would do anything other than vote for the lesser of two evils if it is GUARANTEED that one of the two will be in power and control our lives.

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              Who the fuck cares?

              I do, and you should.

              One WILL be in control. That WILL happen.

              And that means I have to be happy about it?

              Only a moron would do anything other than vote for the lesser of two evils

              We’re not talking about voting. We’re talking about people who drag out the old “both sides!” bumper sticker slogan anytime someone dares to criticize the Democrats. What’s your suggested alternative? Should I pretend to like them?

              Hooray for me! I voted for evil!

              if it is GUARANTEED that one of the two will be in power and control our lives.

              If my only choice is between losing a finger or losing an arm, I’m going to choose the finger. That doesn’t mean I have to be excited about it.

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            I don’t think voting actually changes anything federally because I don’t think voting matters while we have the electoral college in play there. That being said, voting is a form of harm reduction and the democrats aren’t fascists.

            I don’t judge people for not voting, I do judge people for voting republican, though. I would rather people stay at home than vote republican.